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this hope radio for the masses headline

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of this in July 8 1947 here on the

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airport through person arms that are

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flying there - found and is now in the

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possession of the I read changed the

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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you listening today too

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we judge only game change in that blood

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well well well fade to black

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this spoke radio that's right for the

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some things I just love to say today's

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Thursday August 24th 235 days into the

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new year just 130 days left we are live

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from a bunker somewhere in downtown

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Burbank California and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world Hall across the United States

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either until there to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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this is fade of line now for Kate ACRs

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a mural Jimmy Church what is crack and

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everybody how you doing how you doing

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tonight's tonight we have very special

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guest with us he's back I miss him too

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Ralph Ellis is here live from Europe yes

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we are gonna rewrite history once again

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I'm painted black right here the very

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best and Ralph Ellis we're gonna do a

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little of Garden of Eden tonight we're

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gonna do some Adam and Eve Garden of

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Eden and we're gonna somehow as only

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dots to King Solomon and Snow White

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that's only Ralph Ellis can pull that

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show tonight because it is Thursday Jon

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Rappoport is going to be here with us no

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more fake newsroom live and he's

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okay so uh and he's gonna take us all

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then Ralph Ellis will be here so there

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you go I'm going to try and squeeze in

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some phone calls tonight so we'll do

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that too as well Alison look at look at

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the Alison woman cave that's what I'm

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know what I'm gonna save this image

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right here I'm stealing it Thank You

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Alison Alison's woman cave right there

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look at that and she's got it going on

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yeah follow us on Twitter right Jade

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official so that's what that is over

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right the no more fake newsroom is our

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night normally Jon Rappoport is with us

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at the bottom of the hour but tonight we

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have Ralph Ellis live from Europe so

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we're gonna bring in John right now and

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then this is the deal without the

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all of that stuff I'm just gonna say

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John welcome back my friend how are you

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here we go folks hold on John let me let

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me let me at least give you this okay

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all right take it away John all right

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I will take it away I was debating

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between a couple stories here you might

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check out at no more fake news a story

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on fake evidence used in the Oklahoma

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bombing of 1995 when into the archive

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murrah Federal Building in 1995 and

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many times on the show here the medical

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the world the best protected by media by

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exposure that is deep exposure as to

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are sent to them documents exposing

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type scandals war mongering scandals CIA

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scandals email server scandals you name

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it they've got it and they release it

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WikiLeaks and see if you can find any

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leaks of any substance in the form of

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documents and memos testimony from

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insiders about gigantic medical scandals

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nothing why is that because the medical

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the article specifically that I wrote

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WikiLeaks leaked this which has gotten

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around it's been published not only on

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my website sent out to my list but sent

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regular listeners will have heard this

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before July 26 2011 Erika Medical

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health really the best in the world and

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the author was dr. Barbara starfield who

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perhaps now who at the time was not only

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the line were not only mainstream but

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elite mainstream and in her review she

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225,000 people that would be if you take

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America now if that ain't a story

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nothing is a story and there was a brief

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in 2009 and she told me that this

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higher death figures and we're not even

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getting into the millions of annual what

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should we call it meanings that make

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people extremely debilitated unable to

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work unable to care for others etc etc

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we're not even getting into that so this

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would be by any path st. standard a

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gigantic story that would require years

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of ongoing investigation by the press by

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the government itself and remedies and

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fixes and all of that

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nothing nothing you won't find that

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story the last time I looked on

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WikiLeaks why not

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why don't they pick it up why don't they

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do something with it what are they

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afraid of that's a really good question

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what are they afraid of are they afraid

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that the source is somehow incorrect no

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well you could say that about any source

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but here again it's completely

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mainstream is completely elite

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106 thousand deaths per year caused by

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fda-approved medicines approved as safe

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and effective correctly prescribed the

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other 119 thousand deaths per year due

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to errors and mistreatment in hospitals

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protection protection and fear in the

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case of some media outlets they fear

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that the other stories that they covered

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that they believe have credibility would

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somehow be cast into grave doubt if they

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would go with this story because there

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is such incredible brainwashing washing

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around how wonderful the medical cartel

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is and how wonderful medical treatment

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is that they would face a storm of

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protests if they publish the story that

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I'm talking about and then it would

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throw all their other articles into

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doubt so that's some pretty elite

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brainwashing wouldn't you think for some

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media outlet even certain independent

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media outlets to draw that conclusion

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well we don't to mess with this story

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this is now getting into territory

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that's really too iffy and boy I mean

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forget about the blowback that we face

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for publishing other kinds of articles

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if we publish this we would have a storm

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on our hands and so they don't the

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medical cartel is the best protected

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cartel in the world you can look for

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conspiracies high and low and deep and

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far and they exist but this one is right

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here right out in the open

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right there for everybody to see and the

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mortality numbers are right there right

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in the open for anybody to see and not

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only does the mainstream press not pick

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up on this but certain independent media

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the medical cartel is the best protected

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cartel in the world so this should tell

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you something because what happens in a

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country like the United States when a

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system can get away with killing 2.25

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million people per decade without any

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consequences and wounding and maining

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millions more millions upon millions

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with no consequences this tells you that

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this is an ongoing operation of some

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kind whose effects i've just been

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describing to you year after year after

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year after year and what does this do to

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a country it eats it out from the inside

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it makes people unable to function it

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actually kills people

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it creates huge emotional turmoil

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focusing around all of the relatives and

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the friends and the co-workers of the

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people who die whose deaths are never

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attributed to medical treatment itself

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creating a mystery a question that it's

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never answered for the families that is

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a affect that you would have to call

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major don't you think major as in major

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major major and yet nothing and I'm not

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trying to you know call how WikiLeaks

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because I think they do some very good

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work no question about it

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there are other such sites as I say who

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specialize in documents memos from

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insiders where are the medical insiders

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who should be leaking all kinds of

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information about what's going on in

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their government agencies and their

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pharmaceutical corporations and even in

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where are they as I've talked about on

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the show before where is the medical

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Edward Snowden who comes out of the dark

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out of the closet with a load full of

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documents that reveal horrendous things

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that are happening this time in the

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medical arena and says here they are

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boys and girls here are the documents

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that prove collusion bribes payoffs all

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kinds of stuff in order to approve drugs

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medical drugs in order to sustain the

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kind of destructive medical practices

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that remain in effect in this country

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and all over the world where is such a

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person I know I don't know the people

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but I know of a few of a few people who

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are there who could be such leakers but

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thus far all I see is statements

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anonymously made statements that yes

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they're aware of corruption and so but I

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haven't seen the goods let's have the

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goods get it out there expose what's

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really going on let's not forget that

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medical personnel that are intimately

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involved with human life and death and

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patients take an oath to do no harm to

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care above all for the safety and health

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of their patients and that oath you put

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up against various non-disclosure

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agreements that they sign when they go

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to work for certain agencies and so on

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and so forth

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but what are all those non-disclosure

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agreements about when you think about it

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why would you have if you work say at

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the FDA non-disclosure agreements well

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one of the reasons is because that

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agency doesn't want people talking out

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of school

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about what happens in meetings when

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there are arguments about which drugs to

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approve for human use in which to deny

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and who's getting paid off for what or

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who's colluding with which

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pharmaceutical company or who is

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basically owned by some pharmaceutical

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company who actually works within the

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government that's what I'm talking about

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where is such a person where are those

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people you've heard me talk and in fact

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recently about the film Bakst and it's

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triumphs and successes and the

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opposition to it well what is that film

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about that film is about one man William

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Thompson a 15 year roughly researcher

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Insider at the Centers of Disease

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Control who made a public confession in

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August of 2014 on his whistleblower

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lawyers website Rick Morgan is the

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lawyer in Cincinnati it was published

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Thompson admitted that he and his

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colleagues violated the protocol on the

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study of the MMR vaccine measles mumps

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rubella and by violating the protocol he

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means they omitted certain data on

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purpose that would have shown that the

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vaccine causes an increased risk for

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autism in children by omitting the data

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they were able to conclude falsely that

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the vaccine did not increase the risk of

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autism that's what that film is about

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that's one whistleblower just one who

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went into a kind of hiding after that

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and refused to speak with the press for

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any reason whatsoever

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said he would not speak

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he would only work with members of

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Congress if there was ever a public

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hearing about this an investigation well

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there isn't any and he surely knew I

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would say that there wouldn't be one so

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he is in silence completely now that's

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it there are many such William

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Thompson's within the medical cartel who

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know the truth and like Thompson which

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you will see and hear actually if you

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watch the film Bakst a man torn by his

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own conscience who has contributed to

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the maiming and perhaps even the death

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toll by his fraud and reached a point

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when he couldn't do that any further how

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many of those people do you think given

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what I started to say here at the top

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about this review in the Journal of

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American Medical Association killing

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2.25 million people every decade

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therefore how many people inside the

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medical cartel do you think there are

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who have agonized consciences and are

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torn between their careers their

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paychecks their status the friendship of

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their peers etc etc between that and

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coming clean and admitting what they

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know about what really goes on to

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produce that death figure every year

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like clockwork because my friends

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something goes on to make that happen

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something chronic ongoing deep corrupt

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perverted in order for that death toll

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to keep on ringing year after year

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decade after decade how many people are

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contributing to that with

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in in the innards of the medical system

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who know the truth and will not speak it

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will not speak it the medical cartel is

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the best protected cartel in the world

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that's a message that needs to be

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understood these are facts that need to

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be broadcast and understood by people

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all over the world the story needs to

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come to light and be exposed widely to

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the public so that the public

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understands what is happening to it on a

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regular basis and then we will begin to

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see the crumbling of this facade and

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front and mask of authority when

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somebody medical with a title after his

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name appears in the media and makes a

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statement that has never questioned then

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we will see all of that crumble and that

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is my report for tonight and that's why

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you are on this show John let me let me

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say this I've got 15 seconds just like

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the crack dealers driving the fancy cars

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in the 80s right

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today the creepiest person on the planet

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is the big pharma sales rep driving the

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Mercedes wearing the Cologne you know

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what I mean drug dealers think about

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that in the legal sense and legally John

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thank you for everything that you do my

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friend you are the absolute very best

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you Jimmy thank you so much and we'll

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see you next Thursday Jon Rappoport

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start off every day at no more fake

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church follow me on

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truly bespoke radio for the masses very

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special fader night tonight I'm gonna

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think Jon Rappoport for coming in with

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this no more fake newsroom but tonight

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we have Ralph Ellis back with us and as

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all of you know we did a series of shows

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last summer with Ralph that were were

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total game changers and nobody rewrites

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history like Ralph Ellis he has been

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researching biblical in Egyptian history

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for more than 30 years he's you know

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he's an independent from theological and

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educational establishments completely on

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his own and that allows Ralph to tread

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where nobody else dares to go and it is

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through this independence that Ralph has

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discovered so many new biblical and

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historical truths his books include

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Jesus last of the Pharaohs Eden in Egypt

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Adam and Eve were Pharaoh Akhenaten and

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Nefertiti the King Jesus trilogy

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Cleopatra to Christ Jesus the

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great-grandson of Cleopatra Thoth the

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architect of the universe and his latest

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work the Grail cipher will rot where

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Ralph explains that the Arthurian

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history is actually based upon gospel

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history stopped me dead in my tracks

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Ralph Ellis is the best his website is

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Edie foo - ebooks.com the links are over

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at Jimmy Church radio.com I would like

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to welcome back to fade to black

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live from Europe from an undisclosed

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location our good friend Ralph Alice

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Ralph good morning how are you

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good morning Jimmy yes good to be with

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you again yeah bright and early here

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it's 3:30 in the morning but it's still

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a nice morning well you know you've got

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that European coffee so I know it's all

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good yeah not quite as strong as the

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American one but it's it's waking me up

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very slowly is what have you been up to

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my friend had spent too long since

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you've been on the show if it was up to

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me

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Ralph and you and I talked about this I

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would have you on every single week I

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really would what have you been up to

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what have I been up to Oh lots of things

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I wrote a science paper on climatology

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that's right um because that's sort of

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something I do so I wrote this science

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paper on the paleoclimatology the Ice

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Ages and that was an interesting project

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that took me about nine months to get

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that completed and it was peer reviewed

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and put out there as a proper science

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paper interesting project because again

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it went against the the flow a little

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bit it it said that warming was caused

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by albedo not by co2 so that was an

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interesting little project how is it

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accepted you know I don't expect it to

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be a you know accepted because you are

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going to do just that you're gonna do

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your thing because you are fully

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independent but how is it accepted what

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were there were there those out there

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that said you know what maybe we do need

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to take a look at this

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no they simply refuse to accept it yeah

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that that is the problem with a

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consensus so we produced a paper

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I got a fellow scientist to make sure it

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was all done properly and they just

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simply refused to accept it so in the

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end we had to go to Beijing University

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and we got it published in Beijing very

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kindly with the help of Beijing

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University they paid for it and they

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because they're quite expensive if you

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write a paper and put it out on a a

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scientific and not exactly a magazine

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00:36:52,660 --> 00:36:50,020
they're sort of online services right

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00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:52,670
they're hugely expensive so anyway they

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paid for it all and we got it done that

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way

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so yeah it's it's a problem it's the

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same problem word that we face with the

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00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:03,830
consensus in the biblical sense that

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I've been knocking my head against and

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even the etherion one of course I had

651
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:09,880
the same problem with the Arthurian book

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my competitor as it were

653
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was it guy house all I think a professor

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of our theory in legend and he went to

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this trust fund and he got a grant of a

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00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,800
hundred and forty thousand pounds what's

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that that's probably about a hundred and

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one hundred and eighty thousand dollars

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at present or something like that right

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to go and write a book for about King

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Arthur so I went to the same agency and

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00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:41,350
they said go away you know the more that

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I move along through life you know I

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study I study I research I just history

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just blows my mind and every single day

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I discover more and more Ralph that we

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truly are taught nothing it is all an

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untruth unless you saw it with your own

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eyes and it happened last week and

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you're a witness to it that's one thing

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but history history itself and the

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further that we go back the less

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accurate

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we are both with the calendar in a

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linear sense it gets more and more

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00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:23,270
fragmented but there's only so many

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historians that were around back then

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and so with them how much can we depend

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00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:35,030
on them but all of Orthodox academia is

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00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:38,360
written on that dogma and and it will

681
00:38:43,630 --> 00:38:41,390
never change will it no it won't

682
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I've just had exactly the same problem

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with trying to update Wikipedia and I

684
00:38:53,350 --> 00:38:50,270
was trying to put in a quote from

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00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:53,360
Josephus and it was thrown out of

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Wikipedia because they said we're not

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accepting Wikipedia this was a quote

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about the Exodus and he said Wickham he

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said that Josephus Flavius is a primary

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historian of the Exodus and I said hold

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on a minute he's not primary he's 1500

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years displaced from the Exodus he can't

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be primary right so they said okay he's

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not trustworthy we're not accepting him

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and I said well hold on the whole of

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00:39:24,250 --> 00:39:21,710
Wikipedia if you're talking about

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00:39:26,050 --> 00:39:24,260
biblical history is based upon Josephus

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00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:26,060
100 percent one

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00:39:32,650 --> 00:39:29,210
percent 100% you you you can't throw

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Josephus out the window and and we're

701
00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:34,310
still fighting this it's gone to

702
00:39:38,530 --> 00:39:36,230
arbitration now within Wikipedia because

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00:39:41,710 --> 00:39:38,540
they keep deleting my updates and what

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00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:41,720
they won't allow you see Wikipedia is is

705
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:44,480
governed by a few gatekeepers and if

706
00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:46,160
you've got a gatekeeper who happens to

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00:39:50,350 --> 00:39:48,140
be religious and doesn't like what

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00:39:52,570 --> 00:39:50,360
you're saying and and the particular

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00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:52,580
gatekeeper I'm fighting here thinks he's

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00:39:58,060 --> 00:39:54,440
the son of God so you know we're off to

711
00:40:00,280 --> 00:39:58,070
a bad start there then they just keep

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deleting what you've what you've written

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and what I've written on the Exodus is

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00:40:09,850 --> 00:40:07,790
that the Exodus was older than current

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00:40:11,590 --> 00:40:09,860
history tends to say you know most

716
00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:11,600
people say it was time of ramasees at

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00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:15,590
second you know 13th century BC but if

718
00:40:22,030 --> 00:40:18,710
you read Josephus Josephus Flavius says

719
00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:22,040
the Exodus happened at the time of the

720
00:40:28,930 --> 00:40:25,430
Hyksos Exodus he actually says that the

721
00:40:32,170 --> 00:40:28,940
Israelites were the Hyksos people the

722
00:40:34,540 --> 00:40:32,180
Hyksos Egyptians of Egypt now that puts

723
00:40:36,430 --> 00:40:34,550
a totally different spin on not only the

724
00:40:41,020 --> 00:40:36,440
Exodus because the Exodus must have

725
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:41,030
happened in the 15th no 16th century BC

726
00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:44,530
so about three hundred years before

727
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:47,720
people normally accept but it also means

728
00:40:54,970 --> 00:40:51,170
that the Israelites were the Hyksos and

729
00:40:58,900 --> 00:40:54,980
that's interesting because obviously you

730
00:41:00,640 --> 00:40:58,910
know Josephus was the greatest historian

731
00:41:03,250 --> 00:41:00,650
there's ever been he he wrote the whole

732
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:03,260
history of the Jews and he's readily

733
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:07,250
admitting that they were the Hyksos so

734
00:41:11,170 --> 00:41:09,650
we now have a new source of information

735
00:41:14,650 --> 00:41:11,180
about the Israelites you don't just have

736
00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:14,660
to depend on biblical history you can

737
00:41:18,190 --> 00:41:16,070
actually go and look at real history

738
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:18,200
because we have the real history of the

739
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:20,690
hike sauce and the hike sauce very much

740
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:24,650
like the Israelites they were Semitic

741
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:27,530
people they came down from sort of the

742
00:41:33,130 --> 00:41:31,010
northeast from sort of Mesopotamia and

743
00:41:37,390 --> 00:41:33,140
they took over Egypt and they were in

744
00:41:39,460 --> 00:41:37,400
Egypt for about 300 years also and they

745
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:39,470
were kicked out of ex

746
00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:43,280
of Egypt on a huge great Exodus and it

747
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:45,140
just so happens that that Exodus story

748
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:47,330
is exactly the same as the biblical

749
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,970
Exodus story so we have a group of

750
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:51,680
people who are called shepherds they

751
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:54,050
were known as the Shepherd Kings just

752
00:42:00,430 --> 00:41:55,790
like the Israelites were also known as

753
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:00,440
Shepherds they they wore earrings they

754
00:42:06,490 --> 00:42:03,650
had curly side locks of hair just like

755
00:42:09,010 --> 00:42:06,500
the Jews do of course one of their

756
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:09,020
pharaohs was called Jacob yep there was

757
00:42:17,830 --> 00:42:12,890
a pharaoh called Jacob and there was

758
00:42:21,099 --> 00:42:17,840
darkness and storms for three days just

759
00:42:22,990 --> 00:42:21,109
like the the the plagues and we have

760
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:23,000
this from Egyptian history it comes from

761
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:26,770
a still a known as The Tempest stolen

762
00:42:31,780 --> 00:42:29,599
and there was a war with the Egyptians

763
00:42:35,250 --> 00:42:31,790
with the southern Egyptians the upper

764
00:42:37,690 --> 00:42:35,260
Egyptians with our mozi the first and

765
00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:37,700
they were all kicked out of Egypt and

766
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:40,670
they started from pi Rama see that

767
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:45,290
famous town in in Egypt and they went on

768
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:48,400
a big Exodus and ended up in Jerusalem

769
00:42:52,750 --> 00:42:50,000
sound familiar

770
00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:52,760
yeah of course it does it does and I

771
00:43:02,760 --> 00:42:58,250
have to I have to say why what happened

772
00:43:08,290 --> 00:43:02,770
to Encyclopedia Britannica or any other

773
00:43:12,849 --> 00:43:08,300
reference material what why is Wikipedia

774
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:12,859
the end-all now today of everything how

775
00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:15,530
did this how did we get here well I mean

776
00:43:20,070 --> 00:43:18,230
seriously how easily accessible I

777
00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:20,080
suppose you know for a long time

778
00:43:25,450 --> 00:43:23,390
Encyclopedia Encyclopedia Britannica

779
00:43:27,329 --> 00:43:25,460
would not allow you onto their system it

780
00:43:31,930 --> 00:43:27,339
just said you know go and buy the

781
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:31,940
Encyclopedia and and people didn't so

782
00:43:36,130 --> 00:43:33,530
they went to the free service which was

783
00:43:38,290 --> 00:43:36,140
Wikipedia but we have the same problem

784
00:43:40,270 --> 00:43:38,300
with Encyclopedia Britannica they will

785
00:43:41,950 --> 00:43:40,280
not say that the Israelites are the

786
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:41,960
Hyksos even though it's blindingly

787
00:43:47,380 --> 00:43:44,690
obvious that the that they were the

788
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,390
Hyksos and as I say you know Josephus

789
00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:50,000
Flavius says that they were indeed the

790
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:52,550
Hyksos Pharaohs of Egypt so the

791
00:43:56,609 --> 00:43:53,450
Israelite

792
00:44:00,460 --> 00:43:56,619
Patriarchs all of those patriarchs were

793
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:00,470
Pharaohs of Egypt so you know people

794
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:04,400
like Abraham was mumait bruh the

795
00:44:11,049 --> 00:44:07,130
patriarch called Jacob who is you know

796
00:44:15,849 --> 00:44:11,059
very famous was Pharaoh Jacob Pharaoh

797
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:15,859
Yacouba who was a Hyksos Pharaoh now

798
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:17,569
that all of that is so blindingly

799
00:44:26,289 --> 00:44:23,089
obvious and yet no real reference book

800
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:26,299
or encyclopedia will actually print that

801
00:44:31,329 --> 00:44:29,450
because it's unacceptable and so

802
00:44:33,010 --> 00:44:31,339
therefore they don't even look at it so

803
00:44:35,890 --> 00:44:33,020
you're not allowed to know about it

804
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:35,900
Wikipedia is refusing to tell people

805
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:36,410
about it

806
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:39,770
they've just refused so far well we're

807
00:44:45,460 --> 00:44:42,079
in arbitration now but the funny thing

808
00:44:48,420 --> 00:44:45,470
was while we were having this dispute he

809
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:48,430
said right you've got to have modern

810
00:44:54,130 --> 00:44:50,990
historians who have repeated this you

811
00:44:57,370 --> 00:44:54,140
can't use Josephus rare so I went

812
00:45:00,099 --> 00:44:57,380
hunting for modern historians that

813
00:45:01,809 --> 00:45:00,109
actually said this repeated this and I

814
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:01,819
found two they're not very well known

815
00:45:06,430 --> 00:45:04,010
but I found two and I put that into it

816
00:45:08,049 --> 00:45:06,440
and put that on Wikipedia and they

817
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:08,059
deleted it again they said oh they're

818
00:45:12,839 --> 00:45:09,410
not good enough we don't like the

819
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:12,849
historians you've found but one of them

820
00:45:21,609 --> 00:45:17,930
was from 1840 so a 19th century

821
00:45:23,380 --> 00:45:21,619
historian and I was reading through this

822
00:45:25,630 --> 00:45:23,390
and I was suddenly finding that in the

823
00:45:29,410 --> 00:45:25,640
Victorian era in fact slightly before

824
00:45:32,410 --> 00:45:29,420
Victorian era I suppose some of this was

825
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:32,420
acceptable so they were more

826
00:45:39,130 --> 00:45:35,359
broad-minded within the Victorian era

827
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:39,140
then we find within modern academia so

828
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:42,319
we had he was quoting two or three

829
00:45:50,740 --> 00:45:47,210
different 19th century historians who

830
00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:50,750
were talking about the Israelites being

831
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:53,720
the Hyksos they didn't come to a full

832
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:55,490
conclusion as to whether they were or

833
00:46:01,329 --> 00:45:57,650
not they were trying to argue against it

834
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,339
because they didn't like the idea of the

835
00:46:06,980 --> 00:46:03,920
Israelites being Egyptians nevertheless

836
00:46:10,340 --> 00:46:06,990
they fully discussed this this problem

837
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:10,350
and and and wrote about it which you

838
00:46:15,530 --> 00:46:12,330
won't find in the modern era so I think

839
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:15,540
you know within history we're regressing

840
00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:17,910
slightly we're not as broad-minded as

841
00:46:21,859 --> 00:46:19,830
well right what the nineteenth century

842
00:46:25,010 --> 00:46:21,869
well I tell you what's interesting about

843
00:46:28,450 --> 00:46:25,020
that the nineteenth century from 1800 to

844
00:46:32,210 --> 00:46:28,460
1900 that entire period they were

845
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:32,220
rewriting history every single day

846
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:34,170
they've you know they finally figured

847
00:46:39,380 --> 00:46:35,850
out hieroglyphics they were they were

848
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:39,390
digging up Egypt right from the north of

849
00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:42,240
the south constantly making discoveries

850
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:45,990
and and and and papaya and and and just

851
00:46:49,790 --> 00:46:47,910
figuring things out and they were just

852
00:46:51,740 --> 00:46:49,800
rewriting it every single day they were

853
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:51,750
ok you're absolutely right

854
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:54,510
open-minded there the door was stuck

855
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:55,050
open

856
00:47:01,130 --> 00:46:58,650
with that

857
00:47:03,830 --> 00:47:01,140
well also I want to uh this is a good

858
00:47:05,450 --> 00:47:03,840
opportunity for me to mention and after

859
00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:05,460
the show you can go and check this out

860
00:47:09,980 --> 00:47:07,950
and I'll send you the links we have a

861
00:47:15,590 --> 00:47:09,990
new project that we've started here and

862
00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:15,600
it's called uni wiki uni WI ki dot or

863
00:47:23,770 --> 00:47:18,750
you you know what you got yes yes and so

864
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:23,780
this is for us our community our

865
00:47:29,930 --> 00:47:26,400
researchers and our community to

866
00:47:31,340 --> 00:47:29,940
contribute to all things that we are you

867
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:31,350
know that we speak about and talk about

868
00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:35,369
and and you are somebody that not only

869
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:39,030
should participate but it is an outlet

870
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:41,369
for you we launched it a couple of weeks

871
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:44,910
ago the engine is done software it's

872
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:46,650
done so you should go check that out and

873
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:49,440
we'll start getting this published for

874
00:47:55,130 --> 00:47:52,650
you so there you go and I'm one of the

875
00:47:57,710 --> 00:47:55,140
moderators so it's me you got to get the

876
00:48:01,220 --> 00:47:57,720
stuff by but yes so go check it out uni

877
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:01,230
wiki dot org that sounds like a good

878
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:01,770
idea

879
00:48:11,230 --> 00:48:07,170
see it just check it out and it is very

880
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:11,240
very very very very cool so with that

881
00:48:19,069 --> 00:48:14,609
the Garden of Eden everybody's been

882
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:19,079
looking for it there's been a lot of

883
00:48:26,019 --> 00:48:21,690
pretty cool theories put out there about

884
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:26,029
its location in Kenya all over actually

885
00:48:32,779 --> 00:48:30,089
Africa well and those were good theories

886
00:48:34,670 --> 00:48:32,789
too as well I mean you read it and none

887
00:48:36,229 --> 00:48:34,680
of us really know because we weren't

888
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:36,239
there you know we've got to put the

889
00:48:40,789 --> 00:48:37,650
evidence together and try to figure this

890
00:48:43,819 --> 00:48:40,799
out but the way that you are once again

891
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:43,829
man Ralph you just make me go well you

892
00:48:50,479 --> 00:48:47,609
know Ralph is right it's so anyway the

893
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:50,489
Nile Valley and we start to take a look

894
00:48:55,759 --> 00:48:52,890
at that that as there's a reason why a

895
00:48:58,759 --> 00:48:55,769
gypped was what it was for so many

896
00:49:01,489 --> 00:48:58,769
thousands of years because there was a

897
00:49:03,229 --> 00:49:01,499
Garden of Eden there and so let's

898
00:49:06,140 --> 00:49:03,239
actually start there and then we'll kind

899
00:49:10,009 --> 00:49:06,150
of work forward where do you think the

900
00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:10,019
Garden of Eden was and why yes that was

901
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:11,940
an interesting one because this this

902
00:49:15,949 --> 00:49:13,920
book actually came a bit later in my

903
00:49:17,569 --> 00:49:15,959
research because a lot of the early

904
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:17,579
research as we were just talking about

905
00:49:23,539 --> 00:49:19,890
had already placed biblical history back

906
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:23,549
into Egypt as we were just talking with

907
00:49:29,299 --> 00:49:26,130
the Israelites being the Hyksos Pharaohs

908
00:49:32,479 --> 00:49:29,309
of Egypt so I was already on to this

909
00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:32,489
theme of everything being Egyptian but

910
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:35,369
then I was sort of looking at Genesis

911
00:49:41,029 --> 00:49:39,119
and it's it's it's so non-historical

912
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:41,039
it's so fanciful you think well how can

913
00:49:48,109 --> 00:49:44,880
you ever prize any real information out

914
00:49:50,180 --> 00:49:48,119
of Genesis it's just impossible but I

915
00:49:54,499 --> 00:49:50,190
did notice that one of the first verses

916
00:49:57,469 --> 00:49:54,509
if you go to Genesis 2:10 it says a

917
00:49:59,989 --> 00:49:57,479
river went out of Eden to water the

918
00:50:05,059 --> 00:49:59,999
garden and from thence it was parted

919
00:50:07,339 --> 00:50:05,069
into four heads or branches so a river

920
00:50:12,410 --> 00:50:07,349
goes through a garden and then divides

921
00:50:14,749 --> 00:50:12,420
into four branches well sorry but

922
00:50:16,910 --> 00:50:14,759
there's only one river in the whole of

923
00:50:21,019 --> 00:50:16,920
the world really pretty much that does

924
00:50:24,529 --> 00:50:21,029
that and that's the Nile it runs through

925
00:50:28,219 --> 00:50:24,539
the garden oasis the ribbon Oasis of of

926
00:50:31,789 --> 00:50:28,229
Egypt itself and then it gets to Cairo

927
00:50:33,050 --> 00:50:31,799
and it divides into four branches or it

928
00:50:34,970 --> 00:50:33,060
did divide into four

929
00:50:38,420 --> 00:50:34,980
there's only two left now but anyway

930
00:50:42,350 --> 00:50:38,430
they used to be four he just had to be

931
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:42,360
talking about Egypt again and and

932
00:50:47,090 --> 00:50:44,370
josephus flavius confirms this when he

933
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:47,100
says were that one of the rivers of Eden

934
00:50:54,740 --> 00:50:52,650
was the Nile so we're talking about an

935
00:50:58,940 --> 00:50:54,750
Egyptian story here again and we have

936
00:51:03,740 --> 00:50:58,950
this strange which seems like a creation

937
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,750
story and it had a lot of synergy with

938
00:51:10,580 --> 00:51:05,520
with some of the work I'd already been

939
00:51:13,340 --> 00:51:10,590
looking at so the Garden of Eden looks

940
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:13,350
like it was probably the garden of Artin

941
00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:15,450
because I'd already been researching the

942
00:51:21,350 --> 00:51:18,870
garden of art and before and actually an

943
00:51:23,090 --> 00:51:21,360
Egyptian if you look at the spelling in

944
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:23,100
the hieroglyphs it's probably the garden

945
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:26,400
of eatin and what was the garden of

946
00:51:33,110 --> 00:51:28,470
eatin well that was the garden of the

947
00:51:36,310 --> 00:51:33,120
god Artin or eaten the god of Akhenaten

948
00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:36,320
so we have a direct link here between

949
00:51:43,490 --> 00:51:39,960
Adam and Eve and and Pharaoh Akhenaten

950
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:43,500
and his Queen Nefertiti now let me jump

951
00:51:48,050 --> 00:51:45,810
in here really quick because when I look

952
00:51:51,410 --> 00:51:48,060
at the spelling I mean there's the

953
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:51,420
obvious phonetic connection if we go

954
00:51:58,550 --> 00:51:54,210
back to all of the ancient languages

955
00:52:00,860 --> 00:51:58,560
back then phonetically or is that the

956
00:52:06,170 --> 00:52:00,870
connection because you know over time

957
00:52:10,490 --> 00:52:06,180
did eaten or Otton turn into Eden just

958
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:10,500
because of the oral histories no it was

959
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,810
actually spelt like that way in my

960
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:14,640
researches I came across two ancient

961
00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:17,910
Egyptian texts that spelt the art and

962
00:52:23,780 --> 00:52:20,940
with a D instead also they clearly Arden

963
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,790
yeah this is accordance and that and

964
00:52:28,730 --> 00:52:25,680
that's those are our original egyptian

965
00:52:32,780 --> 00:52:28,740
texts plus of course the god of the

966
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:32,790
Israelites was called Arden exactly the

967
00:52:38,270 --> 00:52:36,090
same so the god of the Israelites has

968
00:52:42,380 --> 00:52:38,280
many names he was not normally known as

969
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:42,390
Yahweh or lo him and these are all solar

970
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:44,250
aspects of as well we'll come to this

971
00:52:47,230 --> 00:52:46,410
when we maybe talk about snow white or

972
00:52:52,220 --> 00:52:47,240
whatever

973
00:52:56,570 --> 00:52:52,230
but Yahweh is the Egyptian yeah which is

974
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:56,580
the moon God Elohim is is the Sun God

975
00:53:02,690 --> 00:52:59,520
you I'll have to work on that because

976
00:53:05,770 --> 00:53:02,700
that's a bit more complex but anyway one

977
00:53:10,070 --> 00:53:05,780
of the other names for the Israelite God

978
00:53:13,850 --> 00:53:10,080
was Adam and the Arden has obviously

979
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:13,860
come directly from Aten or Arden which

980
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:17,610
was the god of Pharaoh Akhenaten so we

981
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:19,650
have a synergy here between the

982
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:21,930
Israelite God who is called Arden and

983
00:53:27,980 --> 00:53:25,490
the Garden of Eden which was called Eden

984
00:53:29,630 --> 00:53:27,990
and of course in the Egyptian spelling

985
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:29,640
as I said they spell it with a read

986
00:53:39,110 --> 00:53:35,760
glyph which makes the God the God art

987
00:53:42,380 --> 00:53:39,120
and becomes that God eaten it spelt more

988
00:53:45,790 --> 00:53:42,390
with an E than it is with an A so we

989
00:53:48,620 --> 00:53:45,800
have pretty much exactly the same name

990
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:48,630
the Garden of Eden and the garden and

991
00:53:56,570 --> 00:53:53,760
the god of eatin and so it just seemed

992
00:53:58,940 --> 00:53:56,580
like the Garden of Eden was because all

993
00:54:00,500 --> 00:53:58,950
of these gods had Gardens dedicated to

994
00:54:02,810 --> 00:54:00,510
themselves if you look through Egypt

995
00:54:06,130 --> 00:54:02,820
they they loved their secret gardens in

996
00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:06,140
in Babylon they called them paradise

997
00:54:12,380 --> 00:54:09,510
paradise means a sacred garden that's

998
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:12,390
where we get the name from so they all

999
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:14,730
had sacred Gardens dedicated to their

1000
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:16,770
God and of course in our mana they had a

1001
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:19,170
sacred garden that was dedicated to the

1002
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:23,370
God Artin and so we had this connection

1003
00:54:31,130 --> 00:54:28,770
with Akhenaten and Nefertiti and if you

1004
00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:31,140
look at the story of Genesis of course

1005
00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:35,310
we have Akhenaten and Nefertiti always

1006
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:39,990
naked within their Garden of Arden if

1007
00:54:44,060 --> 00:54:41,760
you look at any of the iconography from

1008
00:54:46,820 --> 00:54:44,070
that era you will see that Akhenaten and

1009
00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:46,830
Nefertiti were pretty much naked all the

1010
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:49,550
time they were sort of like I don't know

1011
00:55:00,160 --> 00:54:54,510
1960s hippies sort of affirm in their

1012
00:55:04,299 --> 00:55:01,960
that is the story of Genesis isn't it

1013
00:55:07,660 --> 00:55:04,309
big we have Adam and Eve who were naked

1014
00:55:09,609 --> 00:55:07,670
within the Garden of Eden and Akhenaten

1015
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:09,619
and Nefertiti were doing exactly the

1016
00:55:17,020 --> 00:55:14,450
same and and this is where the garden

1017
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:17,030
the the Genesis story came from what it

1018
00:55:26,620 --> 00:55:21,010
turns out to be is it wasn't a

1019
00:55:28,750 --> 00:55:26,630
foundation story a Genesis story we'll

1020
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:28,760
be right back this is fade to black I'm

1021
00:55:34,990 --> 00:55:30,770
your host Jimmy church tonight ralph

1022
00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:35,000
Ellis is here this is fade to black on

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the GameChanger network in kg ra the

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Ralph Ellis once again tonight the

1026
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:43,970
Garden of Eden we're gonna get to King

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Solomon and connect the dots all the way

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to Snow White this is fade to black of

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church our guest tonight

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ralph Ellis we were talking about the

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Nile and my last question to you when

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everything started to go funky was your

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location for the Garden of Eden and the

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01:00:04,190 --> 01:00:01,500
the Nile Valley where it dumps into the

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01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:04,200
Mediterranean because back then there

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01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:07,650
were four branches off of the Nile which

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01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:10,260
was referenced historically today

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01:00:15,530 --> 01:00:12,720
there's only two but back then there was

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01:00:20,359 --> 01:00:15,540
four you started to talk about Akhenaten

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Otten Eden Eden and it makes a lot of

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01:00:26,690 --> 01:00:23,400
sense but what I wanted to my next

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01:00:30,109 --> 01:00:26,700
question to you at that point was what

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01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:30,119
about the timeline of things here

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01:00:39,500 --> 01:00:35,849
because Akhenaten and and that we're

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01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:39,510
talking about the 18th dynasty 17th 16th

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01:00:44,809 --> 01:00:43,049
dynasty and they all had Gardens

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01:00:46,430 --> 01:00:44,819
yes and I get that and they all had

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01:00:48,049 --> 01:00:46,440
their own temples and I understand that

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01:00:51,140 --> 01:00:48,059
too as well and the gods had their own

1118
01:00:53,980 --> 01:00:51,150
temples but the Garden of Eden should

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01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:53,990
have predated all of this before then so

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01:01:01,309 --> 01:00:58,319
what about that timeline yeah but only

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01:01:03,140 --> 01:01:01,319
if it was actually a creation myth you

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01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:03,150
see people have taken this as being a

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01:01:10,430 --> 01:01:05,520
creation myth right but they're they're

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01:01:14,990 --> 01:01:10,440
wrong what this was is a copy a direct

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01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:15,000
copy I think of Akhenaten's him to the

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01:01:25,339 --> 01:01:18,960
art and so a pharaoh akhenaten made this

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01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,349
glorious great prayer to the Artin which

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01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:27,359
is known as the him to the art and and

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01:01:35,059 --> 01:01:31,410
if you pass him to the Artin and break

1130
01:01:36,740 --> 01:01:35,069
it down into its constituent parts that

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01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:36,750
is the story of Genesis

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01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:40,319
but what Akhenaten was talking about was

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01:01:45,530 --> 01:01:42,809
not the creation of the universe or the

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01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:45,540
world he was talking about the creation

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01:01:49,940 --> 01:01:47,760
of a new day

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that's what the him to the Artem was

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01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:51,930
about it was a celebration of the

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01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:56,400
dawning of a new day so it was a story

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01:02:01,160 --> 01:01:58,530
of the Sun coming up over the horizon

1140
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:01,170
and breaking the dark and giving light

1141
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:04,890
and it's warming rays warming the

1142
01:02:11,030 --> 01:02:06,720
animals and the birds who spread their

1143
01:02:13,940 --> 01:02:11,040
wings and come back to life because it's

1144
01:02:15,950 --> 01:02:13,950
the dawning of a new day and it's quite

1145
01:02:18,170 --> 01:02:15,960
obvious that someone at some point has

1146
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:18,180
taken this hymn and think and has

1147
01:02:23,150 --> 01:02:21,210
thought to himself that that sort of

1148
01:02:25,550 --> 01:02:23,160
looks like a creation myth so we will

1149
01:02:28,190 --> 01:02:25,560
stick it at the beginning of this new

1150
01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:28,200
book which became called the Tanakh or

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01:02:35,810 --> 01:02:32,310
the Torah and it became their creation

1152
01:02:38,599 --> 01:02:35,820
myth but it wasn't it was the him to the

1153
01:02:40,670 --> 01:02:38,609
Artem and it is virtually identical all

1154
01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:40,680
the way through if you look at it and

1155
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:44,720
break it down into its constituent parts

1156
01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:48,090
so that's where we get Genesis from it

1157
01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:50,160
was actually a story about Akhenaten and

1158
01:02:55,849 --> 01:02:54,030
Nefertiti and their glorious Palace down

1159
01:02:59,150 --> 01:02:55,859
in our mana which is in middle Egypt

1160
01:03:01,510 --> 01:02:59,160
that's right which had a garden of the

1161
01:03:07,060 --> 01:03:01,520
Artin into it the Garden of Eden and

1162
01:03:10,190 --> 01:03:07,070
they were the first man and woman

1163
01:03:14,660 --> 01:03:10,200
because that's what their official title

1164
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:14,670
was just as as the wife of the President

1165
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:17,250
of the United States is known as the

1166
01:03:22,580 --> 01:03:20,250
first lady that doesn't mean that she's

1167
01:03:25,340 --> 01:03:22,590
the first woman that's ever existed

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01:03:29,380 --> 01:03:25,350
it just means she's the first lady well

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01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:29,390
in the insert' and they certainly

1170
01:03:37,849 --> 01:03:33,330
created a new religion and tipped Egypt

1171
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:37,859
over restarted things and you know fired

1172
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:41,730
all of the priests and and move forward

1173
01:03:45,980 --> 01:03:44,010
through what was you know actually a

1174
01:03:50,060 --> 01:03:45,990
very beautiful and artistic and creative

1175
01:03:52,910 --> 01:03:50,070
period for for Egypt so if there was

1176
01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:52,920
going to be a new creation myth started

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01:04:00,290 --> 01:03:55,200
it would make a lot of sense at least to

1178
01:04:01,609 --> 01:04:00,300
me yes of course and they were naked

1179
01:04:05,390 --> 01:04:01,619
within the

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01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:05,400
Garden of Eden because that's what the

1181
01:04:10,249 --> 01:04:07,440
iconography of Egypt shows us you know

1182
01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:10,259
if you look at Nefertiti and Akhenaten

1183
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:13,200
they were always portrayed as being

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01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:18,210
naked within Amana and of course that's

1185
01:04:24,009 --> 01:04:20,490
where we get this idea of Adam and Eve

1186
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:24,019
being naked within the Garden of Eden

1187
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:27,690
because it's part of the same story but

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01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:29,730
as you say they started this new

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01:04:38,930 --> 01:04:36,329
religion they started monotheism they

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01:04:42,259 --> 01:04:38,940
were the first monotheists the same as

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01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:42,269
the Israelites were and this was very

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01:04:48,049 --> 01:04:44,490
unpopular at the time and eventually

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01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:48,059
they got thrown out of our mana just as

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01:04:53,839 --> 01:04:51,690
Adam and Eve get thrown out of the

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01:04:59,839 --> 01:04:53,849
Garden of Eden they both had to go on an

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01:05:03,200 --> 01:04:59,849
exodus it is the same story but it gives

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01:05:04,999 --> 01:05:03,210
us another view of the Amana era because

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01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:05,009
of course we don't know what happened to

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01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:07,410
our Connaughton and Nefertiti and the

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01:05:11,059 --> 01:05:09,569
inference from the biblical story and

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01:05:12,890 --> 01:05:11,069
this is the night that the beauty of

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01:05:17,210 --> 01:05:12,900
having these two stories about these

1203
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:17,220
same events is it implies that they did

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01:05:24,349 --> 01:05:20,970
not die in Amana because there is no

1205
01:05:26,059 --> 01:05:24,359
evidence that Nefertiti and Akhenaten

1206
01:05:28,819 --> 01:05:26,069
died there everyone had just assumes

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01:05:32,509 --> 01:05:28,829
they did because they disappeared but

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01:05:35,799 --> 01:05:32,519
the story from Genesis seems to indicate

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01:05:39,529 --> 01:05:35,809
that they actually were thrown out of

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01:05:42,859 --> 01:05:39,539
Amana which is very very likely in fact

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01:05:46,190 --> 01:05:42,869
so their experiment failed that their

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01:05:48,769 --> 01:05:46,200
new community failed we know it ended

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01:05:51,410 --> 01:05:48,779
very suddenly there is no evidence of

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01:05:57,380 --> 01:05:51,420
Akhenaten and Nefertiti actually dying

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01:05:59,180 --> 01:05:57,390
in Amana so from Genesis we can say that

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01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:59,190
they were pushed out of there and they

1217
01:06:03,170 --> 01:06:00,960
went on an exodus somewhere you know

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01:06:06,109 --> 01:06:03,180
this part of history which is one of the

1219
01:06:08,989 --> 01:06:06,119
most fascinating for me we have gone

1220
01:06:13,069 --> 01:06:08,999
back Rita and I and we do nothing but

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01:06:14,550 --> 01:06:13,079
try to uncover more information here the

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01:06:17,330 --> 01:06:14,560
information simply

1223
01:06:20,450 --> 01:06:17,340
goes away when it comes to these two

1224
01:06:24,270 --> 01:06:20,460
there there are a lot of popular

1225
01:06:26,310 --> 01:06:24,280
theories about what happened but there

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01:06:27,990 --> 01:06:26,320
isn't anything concrete it's it's it's

1227
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:28,000
an and it's an amazing part of history

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01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:31,210
they you know until we barely knew what

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01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:33,730
she looked like we have one of the most

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01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:36,430
beautiful sculptures in the world in all

1231
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:38,770
of history which is her it's in the

1232
01:06:42,990 --> 01:06:40,330
British Museum now I don't know if it's

1233
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:43,000
been returned to Cairo but but that's

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01:06:48,450 --> 01:06:45,520
all we have it's it's a very strange

1235
01:06:50,370 --> 01:06:48,460
part of Egyptian history some say that

1236
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:50,380
she went to Turkey some say she went to

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01:06:54,930 --> 01:06:52,480
Iraq some say she went out into the

1238
01:06:56,910 --> 01:06:54,940
middle of the desert and with with all

1239
01:07:00,330 --> 01:06:56,920
of her possessions and just you know

1240
01:07:01,860 --> 01:07:00,340
just just left but we actually don't

1241
01:07:07,130 --> 01:07:01,870
know what do you think happened to

1242
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:07,140
Nefertiti not sure what happened to her

1243
01:07:12,930 --> 01:07:10,450
because as you say she runs off the edge

1244
01:07:17,340 --> 01:07:12,940
of history and so we don't actually know

1245
01:07:19,820 --> 01:07:17,350
what happened to to navigate and to

1246
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:19,830
Akhenaten I get a suspicion that they

1247
01:07:26,580 --> 01:07:23,710
may have gone to Greece they may have

1248
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:26,590
gone to the Levant I don't know because

1249
01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:30,250
the parallel story we get from they

1250
01:07:37,230 --> 01:07:34,960
Sierra is the story both from Geoffrey

1251
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:37,240
of Monmouth and from Scottie chronicon

1252
01:07:44,550 --> 01:07:41,650
in in Scotland which is this story of

1253
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:44,560
the British people and the story of the

1254
01:07:53,730 --> 01:07:49,170
Scots now that concentrates not on

1255
01:07:56,730 --> 01:07:53,740
Akhenaten but two pharaohs down I say

1256
01:08:00,090 --> 01:07:56,740
they are related of course that refers

1257
01:08:01,910 --> 01:08:00,100
to Pharaoh I who was the Pharaoh who

1258
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:01,920
took over after tooten taught

1259
01:08:07,290 --> 01:08:05,290
Tutankhamun died right and Scottie

1260
01:08:09,540 --> 01:08:07,300
chronicon which is the chronicle of the

1261
01:08:12,750 --> 01:08:09,550
Scots this goes back to the 14th century

1262
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:12,760
and Geoffrey of Monmouth which goes back

1263
01:08:22,260 --> 01:08:17,530
to the 12th century are both saying that

1264
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:22,270
Pharaoh I was pushed out of Egypt this

1265
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:26,890
would have been circa 1300 BC and went

1266
01:08:28,260 --> 01:08:27,730
into exile

1267
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:28,270
exact

1268
01:08:31,890 --> 01:08:30,730
the same as Akhenaten and Nefertiti do

1269
01:08:34,170 --> 01:08:31,900
that's right there because they were

1270
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:34,180
unpopular for the very same reason

1271
01:08:39,710 --> 01:08:35,770
because they were artists they were

1272
01:08:42,809 --> 01:08:39,720
monotheists they were trying to

1273
01:08:45,210 --> 01:08:42,819
re-establish monotheism within Egypt and

1274
01:08:48,329 --> 01:08:45,220
they were as unpopular as Akhenaten and

1275
01:08:50,700 --> 01:08:48,339
they got pushed out of Egypt you should

1276
01:08:53,309 --> 01:08:50,710
see Twitter right now Ralph I have all

1277
01:08:55,740 --> 01:08:53,319
of these different theories about why

1278
01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:55,750
they were pushed out right and and and

1279
01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:58,690
each one of them is different and and

1280
01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:00,640
yours is gonna be different this is mine

1281
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:03,040
this is how my mic and words are gonna

1282
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:05,410
laugh but you know what you may agree

1283
01:09:13,740 --> 01:09:09,520
with me I think it was money

1284
01:09:16,650 --> 01:09:13,750
I think the priest at each one of those

1285
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:16,660
sites at each one of those temples who

1286
01:09:23,130 --> 01:09:19,450
were all-powerful before Akhenaten they

1287
01:09:26,610 --> 01:09:23,140
ran the communities they also had a

1288
01:09:28,980 --> 01:09:26,620
money system so everything was done the

1289
01:09:32,250 --> 01:09:28,990
food that they the inner life they were

1290
01:09:34,050 --> 01:09:32,260
rich and Akhenaten and Nefertiti come

1291
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:34,060
along and those guys are out of a gig

1292
01:09:40,890 --> 01:09:38,560
they're out of the gig so and and and

1293
01:09:43,380 --> 01:09:40,900
they wanted that back they had the easy

1294
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:43,390
life and this was up and down the Nile

1295
01:09:51,420 --> 01:09:47,440
this just wasn't at a mana or one

1296
01:09:54,269 --> 01:09:51,430
singles it was at all of the temples in

1297
01:09:57,210 --> 01:09:54,279
Egypt and they wanted their their

1298
01:10:00,090 --> 01:09:57,220
lifestyle back and I really think that

1299
01:10:02,190 --> 01:10:00,100
they they they convinced the community

1300
01:10:04,890 --> 01:10:02,200
that they needed to go back to the old

1301
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:04,900
system of the gods for whatever reason

1302
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:07,840
for them it was money they would

1303
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:10,330
convince the communities and the cities

1304
01:10:15,150 --> 01:10:13,330
around those temples you know it was the

1305
01:10:17,340 --> 01:10:15,160
gods and they wanted the old system back

1306
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:17,350
but they did it because of money that's

1307
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:19,810
my take I think it was a you know it was

1308
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:22,810
a no throw is a reverse it's the same

1309
01:10:25,770 --> 01:10:25,090
throughout history it was money and it

1310
01:10:28,260 --> 01:10:25,780
was power

1311
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:28,270
it was both together yeah it was

1312
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:31,330
Akhenaten you know some people say that

1313
01:10:36,420 --> 01:10:32,950
you know he was a bit of a hippie and

1314
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:36,430
not very powerful however he must have

1315
01:10:40,860 --> 01:10:38,410
been very very powerful because what he

1316
01:10:43,650 --> 01:10:40,870
was doing was the same as now

1317
01:10:46,980 --> 01:10:43,660
going to Rome and closing down the

1318
01:10:49,470 --> 01:10:46,990
Catholic Church and and turning the

1319
01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:49,480
Vatican into a hospital or something I

1320
01:10:55,950 --> 01:10:52,780
don't know that's what he was doing yeah

1321
01:10:58,500 --> 01:10:55,960
closing down the Catholic Church and of

1322
01:11:00,660 --> 01:10:58,510
course there would be any number of

1323
01:11:02,150 --> 01:11:00,670
priests and powerful people who were

1324
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:02,160
against this because it was not only

1325
01:11:08,030 --> 01:11:04,690
taking their money away it was taking

1326
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:08,040
their power away so you know these

1327
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:10,930
institutions are self-perpetuating

1328
01:11:15,950 --> 01:11:12,970
always you know because the people who

1329
01:11:18,150 --> 01:11:15,960
come up through the system they grow up

1330
01:11:20,340 --> 01:11:18,160
through that system they not only

1331
01:11:22,980 --> 01:11:20,350
believe it but they depend on it because

1332
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:22,990
that is their power base that is their

1333
01:11:28,020 --> 01:11:24,850
livelihood that is everything this is

1334
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:28,030
why we have even you know in a more

1335
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:30,970
petty sort of world why I have problems

1336
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:34,570
with my King Arthur story because we

1337
01:11:39,210 --> 01:11:36,250
have another institution in the modern

1338
01:11:42,540 --> 01:11:39,220
world called academia and they depend

1339
01:11:44,130 --> 01:11:42,550
you know for their lifestyle in exactly

1340
01:11:46,230 --> 01:11:44,140
the same way as the Catholic Church

1341
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:46,240
depends for their lifestyle on the

1342
01:11:51,500 --> 01:11:48,490
institution that surrounds them and if

1343
01:11:54,030 --> 01:11:51,510
you try and undermine that institution

1344
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:54,040
that they are a part often and gives

1345
01:11:59,340 --> 01:11:56,800
them a livelihood they are against it

1346
01:12:04,190 --> 01:11:59,350
and that's exactly what Akhenaten had he

1347
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:04,200
had that problem he was trying to change

1348
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:06,730
he was trying to change the religion I

1349
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:13,120
think because of the previous Exodus

1350
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:15,010
because remember the Exodus we were

1351
01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:17,050
talking about the Hyksos Exodus because

1352
01:12:22,830 --> 01:12:19,120
he was a hikes or sympathizer he was of

1353
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:22,840
the same sort of bent as they were they

1354
01:12:27,170 --> 01:12:24,730
had this huge great civil war and the

1355
01:12:30,690 --> 01:12:27,180
exodus of the Hyksos people because of a

1356
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:30,700
disagreement about the constellations in

1357
01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:33,250
their in the heavens above so we had the

1358
01:12:40,340 --> 01:12:35,800
Upper Egyptian still believing in the

1359
01:12:43,650 --> 01:12:40,350
APIs bull which was Taurus and the

1360
01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:43,660
Hyksos were the Shepherd Kings and they

1361
01:12:53,130 --> 01:12:48,670
were believing in Ares because the Sheep

1362
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:53,140
because Taurus had turned into Aries in

1363
01:12:59,940 --> 01:12:54,640
in the precession

1364
01:13:01,770 --> 01:12:59,950
zodiac in about 1750 BC and the upper

1365
01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:01,780
Egyptians got left behind they were

1366
01:13:07,650 --> 01:13:04,000
still worshipping Taurus

1367
01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:07,660
but the hikes or shepherd Kings had had

1368
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:09,520
moved on forward because they saw that

1369
01:13:15,330 --> 01:13:11,770
the constellations had changed and Aries

1370
01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:15,340
was now in the ascendance and they had

1371
01:13:21,380 --> 01:13:18,790
turned into worshiping sheep and that's

1372
01:13:23,550 --> 01:13:21,390
where this bitter dispute came from and

1373
01:13:26,670 --> 01:13:23,560
Akhenaten was trying to stop that

1374
01:13:28,830 --> 01:13:26,680
happening again by getting rid of all of

1375
01:13:30,690 --> 01:13:28,840
this iconography that caused the problem

1376
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:30,700
in the first place

1377
01:13:36,060 --> 01:13:34,090
and that there is a again coming back to

1378
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:36,070
the biblical links here we have this

1379
01:13:43,730 --> 01:13:41,370
beautiful story within the book of

1380
01:13:48,140 --> 01:13:43,740
Genesis yeah must be Genesis where

1381
01:13:51,410 --> 01:13:48,150
Joseph's him of the coat of many colors

1382
01:13:53,730 --> 01:13:51,420
who becomes the prime minister of Egypt

1383
01:13:55,860 --> 01:13:53,740
which tells you how powerful the

1384
01:13:57,540 --> 01:13:55,870
Israelites were in in Egypt he became

1385
01:14:00,750 --> 01:13:57,550
the Prime Minister second only to

1386
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:00,760
Pharaoh and he wants his brothers to

1387
01:14:05,970 --> 01:14:04,330
come down into Egypt and he he has a

1388
01:14:07,860 --> 01:14:05,980
word with them beforehand and he says

1389
01:14:10,740 --> 01:14:07,870
look you're gonna speak to pharaoh when

1390
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:10,750
you speak to pharaoh don't say that you

1391
01:14:16,290 --> 01:14:14,080
are shepherds say that you are cattle

1392
01:14:20,610 --> 01:14:16,300
breeders because only then will you be

1393
01:14:22,860 --> 01:14:20,620
accepted within egypt now that makes

1394
01:14:24,570 --> 01:14:22,870
absolutely no sense whatsoever in terms

1395
01:14:27,540 --> 01:14:24,580
of agriculture because there was nothing

1396
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:27,550
against you no eat eating sheep within

1397
01:14:35,070 --> 01:14:31,330
within Egypt what they were talking

1398
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:35,080
about was religion we were talking about

1399
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:37,690
the APIs bull and the hikes or shepherds

1400
01:14:46,770 --> 01:14:41,920
so what Joseph was saying to his

1401
01:14:49,020 --> 01:14:46,780
brothers is when you see Pharaoh don't

1402
01:14:52,230 --> 01:14:49,030
say that you are shepherds

1403
01:14:55,050 --> 01:14:52,240
don't say you are Hyksos Pharaohs of

1404
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:55,060
Egypt or had been Hyksos Pharaohs of

1405
01:15:01,200 --> 01:14:57,840
Egypt say that you are bul worshippers

1406
01:15:02,940 --> 01:15:01,210
that you are followers of Taurus that

1407
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:02,950
way you will be accepted in Egypt

1408
01:15:06,959 --> 01:15:04,810
because remember this was Joseph was

1409
01:15:10,379 --> 01:15:06,969
after the Exodus

1410
01:15:12,989 --> 01:15:10,389
in historical terms this is them coming

1411
01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:12,999
back down into Egypt this is the story

1412
01:15:19,259 --> 01:15:16,209
of them coming back into Egypt and of

1413
01:15:21,540 --> 01:15:19,269
course the upper Egyptians wouldn't like

1414
01:15:23,219 --> 01:15:21,550
the Shepherd Kings coming back into

1415
01:15:26,179 --> 01:15:23,229
Egypt because they just had this

1416
01:15:29,369 --> 01:15:26,189
enormous great civil war and Exodus

1417
01:15:31,409 --> 01:15:29,379
which was I don't know maybe a couple of

1418
01:15:34,919 --> 01:15:31,419
hundred years before of course they

1419
01:15:36,839 --> 01:15:34,929
wouldn't be accepted so they were trying

1420
01:15:41,009 --> 01:15:36,849
to pretend that they were worshipers of

1421
01:15:43,169 --> 01:15:41,019
Taurus of the APUs ball so that entire

1422
01:15:45,839 --> 01:15:43,179
story within the book of Genesis makes

1423
01:15:48,119 --> 01:15:45,849
absolutely no sense whatsoever in the

1424
01:15:50,580 --> 01:15:48,129
way and it has been presented to us

1425
01:15:53,939 --> 01:15:50,590
unless unless you make those connections

1426
01:15:55,830 --> 01:15:53,949
back to Egypt absolutely that's what

1427
01:15:57,989 --> 01:15:55,840
they will not do right right just will

1428
01:16:01,229 --> 01:15:57,999
not do it well every time you're on the

1429
01:16:03,419 --> 01:16:01,239
show I imagine you moving your chair

1430
01:16:06,029 --> 01:16:03,429
around in your house to avoid the

1431
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:06,039
lightning strikes that are you know that

1432
01:16:11,099 --> 01:16:07,570
are gonna come through the roof at any

1433
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:11,109
moment and here if we are going to go

1434
01:16:16,469 --> 01:16:14,050
back to the creation legend and myth

1435
01:16:21,810 --> 01:16:16,479
with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden

1436
01:16:24,419 --> 01:16:21,820
and and get its I guess the the

1437
01:16:27,779 --> 01:16:24,429
progenitor to this being Akhenaten and

1438
01:16:29,189 --> 01:16:27,789
Nefertiti and Egypt in Egyptian on the

1439
01:16:32,339 --> 01:16:29,199
Nile in Amana

1440
01:16:34,259 --> 01:16:32,349
of all things you are asking for a

1441
01:16:35,989 --> 01:16:34,269
lightning strike right now Ralph and

1442
01:16:38,339 --> 01:16:35,999
there are Christians out there and

1443
01:16:40,290 --> 01:16:38,349
Catholics that are gonna listen to this

1444
01:16:42,869 --> 01:16:40,300
and go wait a minute here we got to pump

1445
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:42,879
the brakes on this truck this is this is

1446
01:16:50,339 --> 01:16:46,090
this is pushing things a bit too far but

1447
01:16:52,469 --> 01:16:50,349
is there other creation myths similar to

1448
01:16:56,310 --> 01:16:52,479
Adam and Eve out there that could have

1449
01:16:58,740 --> 01:16:56,320
the same source going back to Akhenaten

1450
01:17:06,370 --> 01:17:03,970
yeah probably I'm not quite sure what

1451
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:06,380
you're alluding to there I've sort of

1452
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:11,570
moved around that story and it all sort

1453
01:17:17,470 --> 01:17:14,480
of fits into the Egyptian story very

1454
01:17:19,570 --> 01:17:17,480
well I mean Genesis yeah yeah and so

1455
01:17:24,220 --> 01:17:19,580
what I'm saying is let me see if I can

1456
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:24,230
clean that up if you go around the world

1457
01:17:28,090 --> 01:17:26,480
to many different cultures and

1458
01:17:29,530 --> 01:17:28,100
civilizations and look at the different

1459
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:29,540
religions around the world you are going

1460
01:17:34,810 --> 01:17:32,330
to have somebody that was resurrected

1461
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:34,820
somebody that we you know was dead for

1462
01:17:38,530 --> 01:17:36,290
three days somebody that had 12

1463
01:17:41,050 --> 01:17:38,540
disciples somebody that was born of a

1464
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:41,060
virgin mother right I mean the stories

1465
01:17:47,140 --> 01:17:43,040
spread around the world it's not just

1466
01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:47,150
hey Seuss and in the Bible right it's

1467
01:17:52,090 --> 01:17:49,310
it's all around the world and if we go

1468
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:52,100
back for that same creation myth could

1469
01:17:57,250 --> 01:17:54,290
all of those origins of the creation

1470
01:18:00,640 --> 01:17:57,260
myth focus right back to Akhenaten and

1471
01:18:04,450 --> 01:18:00,650
Nefertiti yeah certainly they were very

1472
01:18:09,580 --> 01:18:04,460
very influential because of the exodus

1473
01:18:12,780 --> 01:18:09,590
they had so we have two three recognized

1474
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:12,790
Exodus a--'s that have come out of here

1475
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:15,530
you know we had the exodus of Akhenaten

1476
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:17,840
we had the exodus of the Hyksos people

1477
01:18:25,330 --> 01:18:22,370
that's way back in 1570 odd BC we had

1478
01:18:29,230 --> 01:18:25,340
the exodus of Akhenaten 1320 BC we had

1479
01:18:32,620 --> 01:18:29,240
the exodus of Pharaoh I that we were

1480
01:18:36,220 --> 01:18:32,630
just talking about which was about 1300

1481
01:18:38,590 --> 01:18:36,230
BC who went around to Spain and then to

1482
01:18:41,260 --> 01:18:38,600
Ireland and then to Scotland so all of

1483
01:18:43,060 --> 01:18:41,270
these exodus E's and they went to Greece

1484
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:43,070
as well they took over Greece that was

1485
01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:45,970
part of the Spartans story that's right

1486
01:18:50,410 --> 01:18:48,800
all of those exodus E's was spreading

1487
01:18:52,990 --> 01:18:50,420
this information around the whole of

1488
01:18:55,210 --> 01:18:53,000
Europe and of course they were well

1489
01:18:56,290 --> 01:18:55,220
connected with Mesopotamia as well so

1490
01:19:00,160 --> 01:18:56,300
those stories would have gone into

1491
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:00,170
Mesopotamia so although they were

1492
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:02,810
tragedies these Exodus ease they

1493
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:05,090
actually spread these beliefs far and

1494
01:19:10,300 --> 01:19:08,330
wide much further than the Upper

1495
01:19:11,770 --> 01:19:10,310
Egyptian sitting in Upper Egypt who just

1496
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:11,780
remained where they were

1497
01:19:16,419 --> 01:19:14,210
and so these stories were spread all

1498
01:19:19,060 --> 01:19:16,429
over what was effectively then at that

1499
01:19:24,029 --> 01:19:19,070
time the known world and that's why I

1500
01:19:31,180 --> 01:19:24,039
think they became quite so global the

1501
01:19:33,399 --> 01:19:31,190
when we deal with Adam and Eve being and

1502
01:19:36,729 --> 01:19:33,409
again I'm now I'm gonna have to move my

1503
01:19:39,549 --> 01:19:36,739
chair around so I'm feeling a little

1504
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:39,559
uncomfortable it's hot in here if we

1505
01:19:46,660 --> 01:19:43,730
start to do this where it the the puzzle

1506
01:19:48,819 --> 01:19:46,670
pieces fit together and and it makes

1507
01:19:51,850 --> 01:19:48,829
sense right it's just it's clear as day

1508
01:19:54,370 --> 01:19:51,860
that this is where the story came from

1509
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:54,380
and the Bible was written off of this

1510
01:20:00,270 --> 01:19:57,770
it's okay right I feel that it's okay

1511
01:20:04,180 --> 01:20:00,280
even though it's hot in here right now

1512
01:20:08,049 --> 01:20:04,190
why why do we have those closed minds

1513
01:20:10,930 --> 01:20:08,059
out there you know it is it it's not

1514
01:20:13,810 --> 01:20:10,940
wrong it's not like the earth is gonna

1515
01:20:15,729 --> 01:20:13,820
split in two because of this if that is

1516
01:20:17,830 --> 01:20:15,739
just the case why not just rewrite

1517
01:20:22,180 --> 01:20:17,840
history and let's let's be okay with it

1518
01:20:23,649 --> 01:20:22,190
why the closed minds yeah III don't get

1519
01:20:25,450 --> 01:20:23,659
it because I don't have that sort of

1520
01:20:27,669 --> 01:20:25,460
closed mind as you know I mean I can't

1521
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:27,679
write all these books and have a closed

1522
01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:30,530
mind but you come across this time and

1523
01:20:35,799 --> 01:20:33,440
time again I half of it is is due to

1524
01:20:39,549 --> 01:20:35,809
people bring brought up with one

1525
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:39,559
particular belief type system and they

1526
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,170
don't want it's very distressing to have

1527
01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:44,000
that changed and someone come along and

1528
01:20:50,410 --> 01:20:46,880
say you know everything you understand

1529
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:50,420
is actually wrong and then you have

1530
01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:54,530
people within academia and and the

1531
01:20:58,959 --> 01:20:56,719
church who have both have the same

1532
01:21:01,180 --> 01:20:58,969
problem even though they don't recognize

1533
01:21:02,890 --> 01:21:01,190
themselves as being similar but they

1534
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:02,900
both have the same problem that they

1535
01:21:07,569 --> 01:21:05,530
have been brought up within these

1536
01:21:09,959 --> 01:21:07,579
paradigms that this is their belief

1537
01:21:13,990 --> 01:21:09,969
system and they've been teaching it for

1538
01:21:16,660 --> 01:21:14,000
the last thirty years maybe more within

1539
01:21:19,330 --> 01:21:16,670
their institution and now someone comes

1540
01:21:22,029 --> 01:21:19,340
along and says aha everything you've

1541
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:22,039
taught over the last thirty years in

1542
01:21:25,790 --> 01:21:24,650
fact your whole life has been a complete

1543
01:21:28,430 --> 01:21:25,800
waste of time

1544
01:21:30,110 --> 01:21:28,440
right because you've been you've been

1545
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:30,120
teaching absolute nonsense for the last

1546
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:32,250
thirty years and of course they're not

1547
01:21:37,490 --> 01:21:34,770
going to want to recognize that

1548
01:21:39,650 --> 01:21:37,500
whatsoever and and so they do whatever

1549
01:21:41,330 --> 01:21:39,660
they can not only to preserve their

1550
01:21:42,860 --> 01:21:41,340
institution they're working for whether

1551
01:21:45,620 --> 01:21:42,870
it's academia or whether it's the

1552
01:21:47,420 --> 01:21:45,630
Catholic Church they're not only trying

1553
01:21:49,220 --> 01:21:47,430
to preserve that institution but they're

1554
01:21:51,350 --> 01:21:49,230
they're trying to preserve their own

1555
01:21:53,090 --> 01:21:51,360
integrity because that's what they've

1556
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:53,100
taught people for the last they can't

1557
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:55,290
have meant that they've been wrong for

1558
01:22:00,230 --> 01:21:57,690
thirty years and been teaching a load of

1559
01:22:01,970 --> 01:22:00,240
rubbish yeah so they they protect

1560
01:22:05,420 --> 01:22:01,980
themselves yeah yeah I'm so fascinated

1561
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:05,430
with that and today because of you and

1562
01:22:09,500 --> 01:22:07,410
the Internet and the ability for shows

1563
01:22:13,060 --> 01:22:09,510
like this and to get communication out

1564
01:22:16,370 --> 01:22:13,070
there to the masses like we do now

1565
01:22:18,830 --> 01:22:16,380
isolation and communities was key to

1566
01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:18,840
religion you didn't want the secret out

1567
01:22:23,780 --> 01:22:21,450
right he wanted to control the community

1568
01:22:25,550 --> 01:22:23,790
and and do your thing of the city or the

1569
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:25,560
state but you didn't want the

1570
01:22:30,110 --> 01:22:28,080
information leaked and now around the

1571
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:30,120
world everybody's starting to figure out

1572
01:22:36,170 --> 01:22:31,170
hey wait a minute

1573
01:22:37,730 --> 01:22:36,180
every Savior and every religion was born

1574
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:37,740
on December 25th

1575
01:22:44,780 --> 01:22:42,330
wait a minute here what's going on you

1576
01:22:47,450 --> 01:22:44,790
know now they can they can sit back and

1577
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:47,460
they don't want they could control the

1578
01:22:52,700 --> 01:22:49,530
narrative before they can't do that now

1579
01:22:55,820 --> 01:22:52,710
and with you speaking like this it's

1580
01:22:57,410 --> 01:22:55,830
okay it's gonna you know it's gonna use

1581
01:23:00,020 --> 01:22:57,420
the word it's gonna piss some people off

1582
01:23:02,690 --> 01:23:00,030
but we have to go back and and and

1583
01:23:05,630 --> 01:23:02,700
actually be sensible about things

1584
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:05,640
because everything has an origin it's

1585
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:08,610
like the game telephone right when you

1586
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:10,170
know that you played when you were a kid

1587
01:23:15,770 --> 01:23:12,090
and the more that you tell the story

1588
01:23:17,690 --> 01:23:15,780
over years and centuries of millennia it

1589
01:23:19,340 --> 01:23:17,700
can get twisted around a little bit but

1590
01:23:20,630 --> 01:23:19,350
after a while it becomes truth it gets

1591
01:23:23,660 --> 01:23:20,640
written down and you have the Bible

1592
01:23:26,510 --> 01:23:23,670
right yeah absolutely and people don't

1593
01:23:28,820 --> 01:23:26,520
want to move away from that the there is

1594
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:28,830
still an undercurrent of people who do

1595
01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:31,770
want to put out the truth but it's been

1596
01:23:34,900 --> 01:23:33,510
very difficult the Internet is helping

1597
01:23:38,170 --> 01:23:34,910
of course because this is putting this

1598
01:23:40,710 --> 01:23:38,180
information out into the the

1599
01:23:44,350 --> 01:23:40,720
general masses which has been you know

1600
01:23:46,900 --> 01:23:44,360
it's been covered by secret societies

1601
01:23:51,730 --> 01:23:46,910
for a long time so the information was

1602
01:23:53,860 --> 01:23:51,740
there and we sort of have this from some

1603
01:23:55,300 --> 01:23:53,870
of our fairy stories I do we haven't

1604
01:23:56,710 --> 01:23:55,310
have we been through Snow White and

1605
01:23:58,930 --> 01:23:56,720
things like no we're gonna do that when

1606
01:24:01,600 --> 01:23:58,940
we come back and also King Solomon as

1607
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:01,610
well let's take a break right here and I

1608
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oh I haven't told you my fairy story

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what happened to me last month a real

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fairy story maybe I'll tell Ralph that

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with everybody when we come back

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this is fade to black I'm yours Jimmy

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Church tonight Ralph Ellis rewriting

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history again stay with us

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way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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[Music]

1685
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:47,070
welcome back fade to black

1686
01:28:54,660 --> 01:28:51,130
our guest tonight Ralph Ellis rewriting

1687
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:54,670
history taking a few bodies along with

1688
01:28:59,220 --> 01:28:56,530
us at the same time Ralph Ellis is the

1689
01:29:01,110 --> 01:28:59,230
best now Ralph right before the break we

1690
01:29:03,450 --> 01:29:01,120
brought up faeries and I mentioned my

1691
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:03,460
fairy story so I'm gonna give you the

1692
01:29:07,860 --> 01:29:06,010
short abridged version of us I like

1693
01:29:10,290 --> 01:29:07,870
jewelry all right so I wear a lot of

1694
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:10,300
jewelry and I got a couple of rings that

1695
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:12,730
I wear and one of them

1696
01:29:19,620 --> 01:29:17,110
on my right hand I cannot remove okay

1697
01:29:22,230 --> 01:29:19,630
are you back with us Ralph yes okay I'm

1698
01:29:24,420 --> 01:29:22,240
telling me the fairy story so so anyway

1699
01:29:28,260 --> 01:29:24,430
I have a ring on my right hand that I

1700
01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:28,270
have so I have jewelry on we're up at a

1701
01:29:34,710 --> 01:29:31,360
ranch last month and at this ranch up in

1702
01:29:36,780 --> 01:29:34,720
Washington we get this warning that they

1703
01:29:38,370 --> 01:29:36,790
have fairies there and if fairies show

1704
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:38,380
up you're gonna lose something you lose

1705
01:29:42,420 --> 01:29:39,610
your keys you're gonna lose something

1706
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:42,430
just ask the fairies nicely to return

1707
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:44,560
them and you and I'm just laughing I'm

1708
01:29:52,230 --> 01:29:47,890
rolling my eyes right okay so the next

1709
01:29:54,420 --> 01:29:52,240
day I get back to our hotel room I'm

1710
01:29:58,200 --> 01:29:54,430
taking off my jewelry getting ready for

1711
01:30:03,110 --> 01:29:58,210
bed necklaces and things and I go in my

1712
01:30:05,820 --> 01:30:03,120
ring is missing on my right hand what I

1713
01:30:10,590 --> 01:30:05,830
can't take this ring off and it's now

1714
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:10,600
gone and and I look in the car I'm you

1715
01:30:13,860 --> 01:30:12,400
know let's go to bed I'll find it in the

1716
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:13,870
morning I took it off somewhere and set

1717
01:30:18,090 --> 01:30:15,250
it down I wake up in the morning look

1718
01:30:20,220 --> 01:30:18,100
for it can't find it and I'm like I got

1719
01:30:22,860 --> 01:30:20,230
asked the fairies you know to return

1720
01:30:25,260 --> 01:30:22,870
this ring and rida just like you're not

1721
01:30:28,890 --> 01:30:25,270
I said I am fairies don't want my ring

1722
01:30:33,180 --> 01:30:28,900
back please you know and we go back to

1723
01:30:35,490 --> 01:30:33,190
the ranch and I walk in and and I go up

1724
01:30:38,460 --> 01:30:35,500
to the manager of the ranch and a couple

1725
01:30:40,980 --> 01:30:38,470
of other employees there and I say look

1726
01:30:44,220 --> 01:30:40,990
my ring is missing and I asked the

1727
01:30:46,050 --> 01:30:44,230
fairies this morning to return it and

1728
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:46,060
she goes when I said about a half hour

1729
01:30:50,370 --> 01:30:48,610
ago and Laurie turns to me she goes what

1730
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:50,380
kind of ring was I said she goes was it

1731
01:30:54,990 --> 01:30:52,510
a spinner silver

1732
01:30:58,860 --> 01:30:55,000
yes she goes somebody returned it to me

1733
01:31:03,210 --> 01:30:58,870
15 minutes ago and handed it to me now

1734
01:31:06,690 --> 01:31:03,220
all I got to say is this fairies are

1735
01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:06,700
real I don't care what anybody said I'm

1736
01:31:12,420 --> 01:31:09,280
picturing now I found out where the ring

1737
01:31:15,060 --> 01:31:12,430
was found this is a 78 acre ranch the

1738
01:31:18,450 --> 01:31:15,070
ring was found under a chair that I was

1739
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:18,460
sitting in 24 hours before and fell on

1740
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:20,770
the floor there's no way it fell off my

1741
01:31:24,470 --> 01:31:21,370
hand

1742
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:24,480
I'm picturing little fairies you know

1743
01:31:30,570 --> 01:31:27,570
don't wake him up

1744
01:31:33,810 --> 01:31:30,580
pulling on but but they got the ring off

1745
01:31:36,870 --> 01:31:33,820
and it really really happened Ralph I

1746
01:31:39,030 --> 01:31:36,880
don't fairies are real it's a real thing

1747
01:31:42,540 --> 01:31:39,040
we had another fairy experience this

1748
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:42,550
past weekend so now we were gonna morph

1749
01:31:48,810 --> 01:31:45,010
this into and connect the dots into Snow

1750
01:31:51,870 --> 01:31:48,820
White and also King Solomon him being a

1751
01:31:54,780 --> 01:31:51,880
pharaoh which again is going to cause a

1752
01:31:58,500 --> 01:31:54,790
few lightning strikes on both sides of

1753
01:32:00,600 --> 01:31:58,510
the Atlantic tonight but so let's talk a

1754
01:32:04,590 --> 01:32:00,610
little snow white here or should we do

1755
01:32:06,030 --> 01:32:04,600
King Solomon first a connection to Snow

1756
01:32:07,770 --> 01:32:06,040
White because it's an in it's an

1757
01:32:10,230 --> 01:32:07,780
interesting little story because we were

1758
01:32:13,650 --> 01:32:10,240
talking about you know these traditions

1759
01:32:15,930 --> 01:32:13,660
going underground and this is one of the

1760
01:32:18,090 --> 01:32:15,940
areas where these traditions went

1761
01:32:19,980 --> 01:32:18,100
underground because you weren't you

1762
01:32:22,050 --> 01:32:19,990
weren't really allowed to talk about

1763
01:32:25,970 --> 01:32:22,060
this you know the especially going back

1764
01:32:28,650 --> 01:32:25,980
you know 18th century from 19th century

1765
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:28,660
you're talking about lightning strikes

1766
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:30,730
yeah they they were real some of these

1767
01:32:35,670 --> 01:32:32,530
lightning strikes you know you had to be

1768
01:32:37,470 --> 01:32:35,680
careful what you said before the 20th

1769
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:37,480
century came along you know we're very

1770
01:32:49,170 --> 01:32:47,110
uh we we're very we live in a very easy

1771
01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:49,180
environment here where we can actually

1772
01:32:55,140 --> 01:32:52,480
talk about these things fairly easily

1773
01:32:58,980 --> 01:32:55,150
without persecution but of course back

1774
01:33:01,140 --> 01:32:58,990
then you couldn't and so a lot of these

1775
01:33:03,390 --> 01:33:01,150
traditions went underground and some of

1776
01:33:05,700 --> 01:33:03,400
the places it went to you know it went

1777
01:33:06,470 --> 01:33:05,710
within masonry and various other secret

1778
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:06,480
societies

1779
01:33:13,790 --> 01:33:08,970
but one of the places it went to was was

1780
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:13,800
fairy stories because of all the things

1781
01:33:18,700 --> 01:33:15,810
you could write you were not going to be

1782
01:33:20,930 --> 01:33:18,710
persecuted for writing a fairy story

1783
01:33:24,350 --> 01:33:20,940
because you could always say it's just

1784
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:24,360
made up and it just struck me that some

1785
01:33:29,900 --> 01:33:25,650
of these fairy stories that have come

1786
01:33:32,150 --> 01:33:29,910
out of relatively ancient past were

1787
01:33:35,420 --> 01:33:32,160
alluding to the same things that I was

1788
01:33:40,010 --> 01:33:35,430
researching one of them was was Little

1789
01:33:43,330 --> 01:33:40,020
Mermaid who is is the ginger haired girl

1790
01:33:45,470 --> 01:33:43,340
of course and she's a mermaid and

1791
01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:45,480
remember that all of these characters

1792
01:33:50,860 --> 01:33:48,000
from the past were ginger-haired so

1793
01:33:54,110 --> 01:33:50,870
Jesus was probably ginger hair that's

1794
01:33:55,729 --> 01:33:54,120
that's why modern Muslims tend to wear

1795
01:33:59,780 --> 01:33:55,739
ginger hair because they were following

1796
01:34:02,060 --> 01:33:59,790
the previous prophet and the Dead Sea

1797
01:34:05,229 --> 01:34:02,070
Scrolls says that the new Messiah was

1798
01:34:09,050 --> 01:34:05,239
going to be ginger-haired with freckles

1799
01:34:12,950 --> 01:34:09,060
and even back into Egyptian history if

1800
01:34:14,870 --> 01:34:12,960
you're talking about ramasees ii again

1801
01:34:19,130 --> 01:34:14,880
this is not widely talked about people

1802
01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:19,140
don't like talking about it but the

1803
01:34:24,260 --> 01:34:21,360
mummy of ramses ii was taken over to

1804
01:34:27,050 --> 01:34:24,270
france this is back in the 1990's

1805
01:34:29,570 --> 01:34:27,060
and it was taken to the forensic

1806
01:34:30,770 --> 01:34:29,580
laboratory in paris and they did an

1807
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:30,780
investigation they were trying to

1808
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:32,370
stabilize his mummy because it was

1809
01:34:38,270 --> 01:34:34,290
beginning to deteriorate they found some

1810
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:38,280
bugs on it so they did a a forensic

1811
01:34:44,750 --> 01:34:40,650
analysis of his body and it turns out

1812
01:34:49,790 --> 01:34:44,760
that ramses ii was a pale skinned ginger

1813
01:34:52,100 --> 01:34:49,800
haired guy and so we have this tradition

1814
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:52,110
of ginger going all the way back through

1815
01:34:58,100 --> 01:34:55,730
the biblical story the Hyksos story and

1816
01:35:00,340 --> 01:34:58,110
you've got this little mermaid character

1817
01:35:06,350 --> 01:35:00,350
who's another of these sort of redheads

1818
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:06,360
and was it wasn't what was in Jesus a

1819
01:35:13,370 --> 01:35:09,410
ginger - yeah he was ginger yeah

1820
01:35:15,170 --> 01:35:13,380
definitely was ginger because we have

1821
01:35:19,770 --> 01:35:15,180
this as I say from the Dead Sea Scrolls

1822
01:35:24,089 --> 01:35:19,780
which say that the new Messiah will be

1823
01:35:26,370 --> 01:35:24,099
we'll have freckles and ginger-haired so

1824
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:26,380
we're fairly confident that Jesus was

1825
01:35:30,299 --> 01:35:28,449
was probably ginger-haired and that's

1826
01:35:32,490 --> 01:35:30,309
why all of the Renaissance paintings you

1827
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:32,500
see of Mary Magdalene are always with

1828
01:35:38,910 --> 01:35:37,090
her with golden hair so that that was

1829
01:35:40,290 --> 01:35:38,920
the sort of phenotype we're looking for

1830
01:35:43,020 --> 01:35:40,300
and we have this little mermaid

1831
01:35:45,569 --> 01:35:43,030
character who's in the sea and of course

1832
01:35:48,959 --> 01:35:45,579
Mary Magdalene was known as the Stella

1833
01:35:51,569 --> 01:35:48,969
Maris this could have been Mary the

1834
01:35:54,209 --> 01:35:51,579
Virgin of course they they both had the

1835
01:35:58,649 --> 01:35:54,219
same titles she was known as the Stella

1836
01:36:01,169 --> 01:35:58,659
Maris which means the sea star she was a

1837
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:01,179
mermaid as well and within the mermen

1838
01:36:07,799 --> 01:36:03,010
that the little mermaid story of course

1839
01:36:10,799 --> 01:36:07,809
one of the things that Ariel rescues is

1840
01:36:14,459 --> 01:36:10,809
a picture of Mary Magdalene it's a very

1841
01:36:19,589 --> 01:36:14,469
famous picture is Mary Magdalene and the

1842
01:36:21,930 --> 01:36:19,599
smoking flame by Gregory Latour and this

1843
01:36:23,370 --> 01:36:21,940
is made into a part of the Disney film I

1844
01:36:26,279 --> 01:36:23,380
forgot all about that

1845
01:36:28,109 --> 01:36:26,289
yeah direct reference back to Mary

1846
01:36:29,879 --> 01:36:28,119
Magdalene where she was Little Mermaid

1847
01:36:34,529 --> 01:36:29,889
was Mary Magdalene man you're messing

1848
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:34,539
with my head now we go into Rapunzel of

1849
01:36:40,799 --> 01:36:37,170
course and we got Rapunzel is this

1850
01:36:42,779 --> 01:36:40,809
princess in a tower with long golden

1851
01:36:46,379 --> 01:36:42,789
hair again they always have golden hair

1852
01:36:49,229 --> 01:36:46,389
and she puts down her golden hair for

1853
01:36:51,089 --> 01:36:49,239
her lost Prince this is the lost Prince

1854
01:36:55,020 --> 01:36:51,099
story again and of course the lost

1855
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:55,030
Prince is is Jesus himself and of course

1856
01:37:00,209 --> 01:36:57,730
Rapunzel in the tower what is a tower if

1857
01:37:04,879 --> 01:37:00,219
we go back into Egyptian language or

1858
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:04,889
into Aramaic a tower is a mcdowell and

1859
01:37:12,899 --> 01:37:08,650
so rape an Rapunzel is the Magdalene

1860
01:37:15,060 --> 01:37:12,909
because she's in the tower now so now

1861
01:37:18,629 --> 01:37:15,070
this is what comes to mind really quick

1862
01:37:21,660 --> 01:37:18,639
before we move on the Brothers Grimm who

1863
01:37:25,589 --> 01:37:21,670
wrote the scariest stuff ever known to

1864
01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:25,599
man right absolutely frightening stuff

1865
01:37:31,049 --> 01:37:28,719
make no mistake about it the best the

1866
01:37:32,580 --> 01:37:31,059
best but it you know it caused a lot of

1867
01:37:35,490 --> 01:37:32,590
us children nightmares

1868
01:37:38,700 --> 01:37:35,500
are you suggesting that these guys were

1869
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:38,710
really read religious scholars and

1870
01:37:44,970 --> 01:37:42,010
studied the ancient myths and were able

1871
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:44,980
to pull these stories out I thought they

1872
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:48,610
were originals right the grin yeah but

1873
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:51,130
but the Brothers Grimm were exactly that

1874
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:53,170
they were scholars they were linguists

1875
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:55,690
this was their daily work this is what

1876
01:37:59,700 --> 01:37:57,280
they did

1877
01:38:03,830 --> 01:37:59,710
they weren't just you know making fairy

1878
01:38:08,370 --> 01:38:03,840
stories these were very celebrated

1879
01:38:10,169 --> 01:38:08,380
linguists from from Germany so this was

1880
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:10,179
part and parcel of what they were doing

1881
01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:12,250
and they were encoding as far as I can

1882
01:38:16,740 --> 01:38:14,080
see some of these ancient stories

1883
01:38:18,540 --> 01:38:16,750
because they went around following all

1884
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:18,550
of these ancient stories that they could

1885
01:38:24,689 --> 01:38:22,210
follow and research and put them into

1886
01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:24,699
the fairy stories they were making and

1887
01:38:29,879 --> 01:38:27,280
one of the ones they made was Snow White

1888
01:38:31,589 --> 01:38:29,889
mm-hmm and I didn't get the Snow White

1889
01:38:33,330 --> 01:38:31,599
story initially because she has black

1890
01:38:36,649 --> 01:38:33,340
hair she's not the Magdalene figure

1891
01:38:38,879 --> 01:38:36,659
right but then it turned out that she

1892
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:38,889
was Lilith

1893
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:44,050
she was the moon so Snow White is the

1894
01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:48,610
snow white moon and when she walks

1895
01:38:54,330 --> 01:38:51,040
around with the Seven Dwarfs walking

1896
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:54,340
behind her in a long line she is the

1897
01:39:00,359 --> 01:38:57,130
moon followed by the seven planets and

1898
01:39:03,500 --> 01:39:00,369
they all walk in a long line together

1899
01:39:07,700 --> 01:39:03,510
along the ecliptic in the sky above

1900
01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:07,710
exactly as they do within Snow White and

1901
01:39:12,270 --> 01:39:10,480
then she has this you know this evil

1902
01:39:16,050 --> 01:39:12,280
witch that tries to kill her you know an

1903
01:39:18,330 --> 01:39:16,060
evil witch turns out to be the Milky Way

1904
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:18,340
but that's beside the beside the point

1905
01:39:25,169 --> 01:39:21,489
here so the evil witch comes along and

1906
01:39:27,870 --> 01:39:25,179
gives Snow White a corset which she

1907
01:39:30,060 --> 01:39:27,880
tightens and tightens and tightens to

1908
01:39:33,570 --> 01:39:30,070
make Snow White go slimmer and slimmer

1909
01:39:36,780 --> 01:39:33,580
and slimmer and that's the moon waning

1910
01:39:40,609 --> 01:39:36,790
as the moon goes into a crescent moon

1911
01:39:44,980 --> 01:39:40,619
getting thinner every day until she dies

1912
01:39:48,550 --> 01:39:44,990
she becomes the new moon she goes black

1913
01:39:50,620 --> 01:39:48,560
she's dead but how do you revive the

1914
01:39:53,710 --> 01:39:50,630
dead moon the Dead Snow White

1915
01:39:55,570 --> 01:39:53,720
well you get the Prince that comes along

1916
01:39:56,860 --> 01:39:55,580
and the prince is obviously the solar

1917
01:40:00,400 --> 01:39:56,870
deity he is Helios

1918
01:40:04,150 --> 01:40:00,410
artim he is the Sun and he comes along

1919
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:04,160
and kisses the moon now there is only

1920
01:40:09,970 --> 01:40:07,370
one time you've just had it in America

1921
01:40:13,780 --> 01:40:09,980
actually there is only one time that the

1922
01:40:17,410 --> 01:40:13,790
Sun can kiss the moon and that's during

1923
01:40:19,630 --> 01:40:17,420
an eclipse where the moon passes in

1924
01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:19,640
front of the Sun right right so the dead

1925
01:40:24,910 --> 01:40:22,000
Sun and that the moon has to be dead

1926
01:40:28,180 --> 01:40:24,920
during an eclipse because it has to be a

1927
01:40:31,390 --> 01:40:28,190
new moon so the dead moon comes up to

1928
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:31,400
the Sun kisses the moon and she comes

1929
01:40:37,540 --> 01:40:34,850
back to life and you have a CCG they

1930
01:40:39,550 --> 01:40:37,550
call it you have an eclipse and you have

1931
01:40:41,410 --> 01:40:39,560
the marriage ring you remember they

1932
01:40:43,930 --> 01:40:41,420
talking about the diamond ring of the

1933
01:40:46,300 --> 01:40:43,940
the Eclipse that's right that is the the

1934
01:40:48,070 --> 01:40:46,310
marriage ring between ISA it's a

1935
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:48,080
marriage between the moon and the Sun

1936
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:50,330
which happened to be exactly the same

1937
01:40:56,380 --> 01:40:53,330
diameter in the night sky so it's is

1938
01:40:59,830 --> 01:40:56,390
it's a cosmic marriage this is the Sun

1939
01:41:02,350 --> 01:40:59,840
and the moon in in flagrante delicto in

1940
01:41:06,310 --> 01:41:02,360
the heavens above and then of course

1941
01:41:08,050 --> 01:41:06,320
after the Eclipse the moon comes back to

1942
01:41:10,020 --> 01:41:08,060
life again and she gets fatter and

1943
01:41:14,260 --> 01:41:10,030
fatter and fatter she's now pregnant

1944
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:14,270
with the new cosmic gods in in the

1945
01:41:22,180 --> 01:41:18,050
heavens above that is the story of Snow

1946
01:41:26,710 --> 01:41:22,190
White and that again has been worked its

1947
01:41:27,220 --> 01:41:26,720
way into consciousness via fire a fairy

1948
01:41:43,180 --> 01:41:27,230
story

1949
01:41:47,050 --> 01:41:43,190
everybody knows it but only a few know

1950
01:41:53,530 --> 01:41:47,060
what it means do you know what about

1951
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:53,540
that message because of the ages of you

1952
01:41:57,970 --> 01:41:56,090
know most that are opened up to the

1953
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:57,980
story first were five six seven years

1954
01:42:01,030 --> 01:41:58,880
old right

1955
01:42:03,610 --> 01:42:01,040
and you're watching the cartoon are you

1956
01:42:05,290 --> 01:42:03,620
reading the book and you're looking at

1957
01:42:09,190 --> 01:42:05,300
the illustrations and and the Brothers

1958
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:09,200
Grimm version of it does it subliminally

1959
01:42:16,810 --> 01:42:13,850
get through yeah I think it does because

1960
01:42:18,430 --> 01:42:16,820
it's a part and parcel of the Western

1961
01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:18,440
world you know if you were brought up in

1962
01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:20,000
India you wouldn't you wouldn't have

1963
01:42:24,700 --> 01:42:22,490
these stories you would have some some

1964
01:42:27,540 --> 01:42:24,710
other foundation to your belief system

1965
01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:27,550
but this these this sort of lost Prince

1966
01:42:35,350 --> 01:42:32,000
story it becomes a central element of a

1967
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:35,360
lot of people's lives especially their I

1968
01:42:41,530 --> 01:42:39,890
say ladies who like this idea of the

1969
01:42:43,780 --> 01:42:41,540
lost Prince so you know she's the

1970
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:43,790
princess looking for the lost Prince the

1971
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:45,770
Cinderella story right and even the

1972
01:42:50,620 --> 01:42:47,690
Cinderella story is very much the same

1973
01:42:53,890 --> 01:42:50,630
you know she loses her slipper exactly

1974
01:42:56,380 --> 01:42:53,900
the same as Jason from jason and the

1975
01:42:58,240 --> 01:42:56,390
argonauts right he is only recognized as

1976
01:43:01,840 --> 01:42:58,250
a prince because he loses a slipper

1977
01:43:05,740 --> 01:43:01,850
right these are old MEMS coming back

1978
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:05,750
from you know from bygone ages and it

1979
01:43:12,970 --> 01:43:09,490
becomes a part and parcel of culture and

1980
01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:12,980
it's very specific because it's part of

1981
01:43:21,100 --> 01:43:17,600
this lost Prince story and the lost

1982
01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:21,110
Prince is Mary Magdalene looking for her

1983
01:43:29,230 --> 01:43:26,000
Jesus who she lost after the the Jewish

1984
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:29,240
revolt this is the story of Mary going

1985
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:33,110
into into France into Provence and being

1986
01:43:39,610 --> 01:43:35,650
separated from from Jesus who was

1987
01:43:42,370 --> 01:43:39,620
imprisoned elsewhere which I write about

1988
01:43:44,500 --> 01:43:42,380
in my mary magdalene book where what's

1989
01:43:46,780 --> 01:43:44,510
that one called that's um Mary Magdalene

1990
01:43:48,910 --> 01:43:46,790
princess of orange where she is

1991
01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:48,920
separated from Jesus and she is now the

1992
01:43:58,480 --> 01:43:55,040
lost princess down in France so we all

1993
01:44:01,420 --> 01:43:58,490
know this story through all of these

1994
01:44:06,910 --> 01:44:01,430
fairy stories and it doesn't take much

1995
01:44:09,490 --> 01:44:06,920
of a jog to put you on the right Road is

1996
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:09,500
it it's actually quite a good way of

1997
01:44:12,820 --> 01:44:11,210
doing it because you brought up on these

1998
01:44:15,100 --> 01:44:12,830
stories you know these stories and

1999
01:44:17,110 --> 01:44:15,110
you don't hear much more about it until

2000
01:44:20,650 --> 01:44:17,120
maybe you go to la jeune you know if you

2001
01:44:22,090 --> 01:44:20,660
become a Mason and then someone you know

2002
01:44:25,480 --> 01:44:22,100
when you're much older you're in your

2003
01:44:28,090 --> 01:44:25,490
30s your 40s and see do you realize what

2004
01:44:30,790 --> 01:44:28,100
that meant and then you'll go oh yeah of

2005
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:30,800
course I've known about that for 40

2006
01:44:34,750 --> 01:44:32,330
years didn't realize what it was talking

2007
01:44:39,480 --> 01:44:34,760
about I do the same thing you know now

2008
01:44:42,790 --> 01:44:39,490
whenever especially since you're on

2009
01:44:46,660 --> 01:44:42,800
whenever I'm watching a King Arthur

2010
01:44:49,060 --> 01:44:46,670
movie or or some Jesus historical

2011
01:44:52,570 --> 01:44:49,070
religious narrative or it doesn't really

2012
01:44:55,870 --> 01:44:52,580
matter now and going through to the Lion

2013
01:44:56,470 --> 01:44:55,880
King or any this modern it it's twisted

2014
01:44:58,750 --> 01:44:56,480
up to me

2015
01:45:01,180 --> 01:44:58,760
you have you have managed to

2016
01:45:05,950 --> 01:45:01,190
single-handedly and I'm not I'm not

2017
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:05,960
joking about this now I was just you

2018
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:07,370
know over the last six months I've

2019
01:45:11,380 --> 01:45:08,810
probably seen three or four different

2020
01:45:16,380 --> 01:45:11,390
King Arthur movies and and read some

2021
01:45:20,470 --> 01:45:16,390
stuff and I just see the entire

2022
01:45:26,140 --> 01:45:20,480
disciples and Jesus story played out in

2023
01:45:28,540 --> 01:45:26,150
in the King Arthur mythos it's it's

2024
01:45:31,060 --> 01:45:28,550
really funny it's the only way to look

2025
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:31,070
at it now I don't know why it's you go

2026
01:45:35,260 --> 01:45:33,050
you can't see it any other way no it's

2027
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:35,270
impossible isn't it well yeah that's

2028
01:45:38,500 --> 01:45:36,890
funny and that's exactly what they were

2029
01:45:43,060 --> 01:45:38,510
doing they were doing exactly the same

2030
01:45:46,750 --> 01:45:43,070
as the fairy story idea that you could

2031
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:46,760
not tell this story openly but you could

2032
01:45:51,460 --> 01:45:48,650
make it into a mythology you could talk

2033
01:45:53,830 --> 01:45:51,470
about you know King Arthur and make up

2034
01:45:55,300 --> 01:45:53,840
stories about King Arthur and then again

2035
01:45:57,310 --> 01:45:55,310
no one would know what it's talking

2036
01:46:00,850 --> 01:45:57,320
about until you go somewhere where

2037
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:00,860
someone says did you know King Arthur is

2038
01:46:06,250 --> 01:46:02,570
actually a story about you and then you

2039
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:06,260
go ah Gus yeah now it all makes sense I

2040
01:46:10,270 --> 01:46:08,090
didn't know what this story meant before

2041
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:10,280
but now I do all make sense then they

2042
01:46:14,710 --> 01:46:11,810
were doing exactly the same thing they

2043
01:46:17,020 --> 01:46:14,720
were hiding these stories in acceptable

2044
01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:17,030
fashions through mythology

2045
01:46:23,260 --> 01:46:19,760
yeah and in Joseph Joseph Campbell you

2046
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:23,270
know with the hero's journey right and

2047
01:46:27,790 --> 01:46:26,449
you when you start to study all of this

2048
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:27,800
and you go back and you look at all the

2049
01:46:33,219 --> 01:46:29,690
great riders and you look at all of the

2050
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:33,229
great stories and like you just said the

2051
01:46:37,719 --> 01:46:35,090
Argonauts right if you go back and you

2052
01:46:40,390 --> 01:46:37,729
look at Odysseus if you go back and look

2053
01:46:42,489 --> 01:46:40,400
at everything they all fit the same

2054
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:42,499
narrative they all repeat themselves

2055
01:46:50,649 --> 01:46:46,449
because the story has been so fine-tuned

2056
01:46:53,049 --> 01:46:50,659
fine-tuned right over over time you just

2057
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:53,059
rewrite that story like Snow White

2058
01:46:57,699 --> 01:46:55,010
well you know what the Brothers Grimm

2059
01:46:59,859 --> 01:46:57,709
they had the they had the history to

2060
01:47:02,379 --> 01:46:59,869
ride upon turn it into something modern

2061
01:47:04,719 --> 01:47:02,389
make it a fairy and run with it because

2062
01:47:10,689 --> 01:47:04,729
of the story itself is perfect by this

2063
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:10,699
point yeah yeah and yeah and it's it's

2064
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:13,610
interesting how you know that story can

2065
01:47:18,549 --> 01:47:16,489
be embedded and hidden so that only less

2066
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:18,559
than 1% of the population can actually

2067
01:47:23,259 --> 01:47:20,690
read it and know what it talks about

2068
01:47:25,899 --> 01:47:23,269
it's very effective and it's kept these

2069
01:47:28,750 --> 01:47:25,909
traditions alive you know when when they

2070
01:47:29,979 --> 01:47:28,760
would have died otherwise so the yeah it

2071
01:47:31,930 --> 01:47:29,989
does appear that there are one or two

2072
01:47:35,109 --> 01:47:31,940
people behind the scenes that know about

2073
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:35,119
this but it's not been put out into the

2074
01:47:39,069 --> 01:47:37,489
public arena very much and that's what

2075
01:47:41,589 --> 01:47:39,079
this series of books are doing you know

2076
01:47:45,430 --> 01:47:41,599
all of my books bringing this knowledge

2077
01:47:48,399 --> 01:47:45,440
out and re putting it back into the

2078
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:48,409
public arena and some of it is so old

2079
01:47:54,459 --> 01:47:52,010
it's been lost you know I really do

2080
01:47:56,890 --> 01:47:54,469
think that the Arthurian story was was

2081
01:48:00,819 --> 01:47:56,900
lost because although it was there it

2082
01:48:04,089 --> 01:48:00,829
was written into mythology so it would

2083
01:48:06,699 --> 01:48:04,099
be preserved I've not seen any

2084
01:48:10,020 --> 01:48:06,709
indication that anyone knew what it was

2085
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:10,030
until I brought it out so it's there

2086
01:48:14,350 --> 01:48:12,650
waiting for someone to bring it out and

2087
01:48:16,060 --> 01:48:14,360
they're probably other stories out there

2088
01:48:18,430 --> 01:48:16,070
waiting for someone to bring them out

2089
01:48:20,290 --> 01:48:18,440
because it's been forgotten about no

2090
01:48:24,399 --> 01:48:20,300
one's talked about the King Arthur story

2091
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:24,409
being a new gospel basically the Jesus

2092
01:48:29,620 --> 01:48:27,050
story no one's talked about that for

2093
01:48:32,140 --> 01:48:29,630
maybe of why I don't know maybe five

2094
01:48:35,529 --> 01:48:32,150
hundred years I can say forever yeah

2095
01:48:37,239 --> 01:48:35,539
yeah well well certainly you know it was

2096
01:48:39,890 --> 01:48:37,249
written about up to the 13th century

2097
01:48:41,630 --> 01:48:39,900
people were avidly writing about it

2098
01:48:44,270 --> 01:48:41,640
and then you come on to some of the

2099
01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:44,280
later our theory and histories and

2100
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:46,110
coming up into the more sort of

2101
01:48:50,450 --> 01:48:47,730
Victorian era and they're writing about

2102
01:48:53,030 --> 01:48:50,460
and you think hey these guys don't

2103
01:48:54,530 --> 01:48:53,040
understand the story no they know the

2104
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:54,540
history but they don't understand the

2105
01:49:00,290 --> 01:48:56,730
story you get people like William NEETs

2106
01:49:03,470 --> 01:49:00,300
I think it was was the the great artheon

2107
01:49:05,870 --> 01:49:03,480
historian I think it was German and and

2108
01:49:08,770 --> 01:49:05,880
like we were talking about academia

2109
01:49:11,390 --> 01:49:08,780
before some of these twentieth-century

2110
01:49:13,669 --> 01:49:11,400
academics were absolutely superb you

2111
01:49:15,620 --> 01:49:13,679
know if you want to see a good analysis

2112
01:49:17,780 --> 01:49:15,630
of a theory in history go back to NEETs

2113
01:49:19,850 --> 01:49:17,790
and some of the other Victorians they

2114
01:49:22,700 --> 01:49:19,860
really knew their stuff but you're

2115
01:49:26,180 --> 01:49:22,710
reading through this and thinking they

2116
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:26,190
didn't understand the underlying story

2117
01:49:33,140 --> 01:49:29,010
they didn't understand that this story

2118
01:49:37,959 --> 01:49:33,150
came out of out of Jerusalem out of

2119
01:49:40,340 --> 01:49:37,969
panic yeah it says William NEETs

2120
01:49:44,870 --> 01:49:40,350
because it talks about just very briefly

2121
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:44,880
here it talks about the author of our

2122
01:49:50,930 --> 01:49:47,610
theory in history being Josephus Flavius

2123
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:50,940
and of course letes and some of the

2124
01:49:54,950 --> 01:49:52,770
other historians are saying well

2125
01:49:56,270 --> 01:49:54,960
obviously this is this is a total

2126
01:49:58,580 --> 01:49:56,280
mistake you know they've got themselves

2127
01:50:01,880 --> 01:49:58,590
confused here because you can't have a

2128
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:01,890
first century historian writing about

2129
01:50:06,260 --> 01:50:04,530
sixth century events so that there is a

2130
01:50:09,590 --> 01:50:06,270
bit of a confusion within the text here

2131
01:50:12,770 --> 01:50:09,600
and you're thinking well yeah you know a

2132
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:12,780
lot of stuff but you you haven't grasped

2133
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:15,360
the story that this is actually about

2134
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:18,210
you know the Gospel story and that is

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01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:20,730
why Josephus Flavius is able to write

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01:50:25,939 --> 01:50:23,730
about it let me ask you a story right

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01:50:31,370 --> 01:50:25,949
right well let me ask you this Ralph and

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01:50:34,820 --> 01:50:31,380
when you see these British researchers

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01:50:38,510 --> 01:50:34,830
going all over the UK and this has gone

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01:50:40,970 --> 01:50:38,520
on for decades now looking for the

2141
01:50:42,770 --> 01:50:40,980
burial site of King Arthur or they found

2142
01:50:45,229 --> 01:50:42,780
it right they found the grave stone it's

2143
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:45,239
it's a way what's your reaction to that

2144
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:48,170
do you just completely roll your eyes

2145
01:50:53,780 --> 01:50:52,650
yeah I do a little bit because you see

2146
01:50:57,620 --> 01:50:53,790
them actually saying

2147
01:50:59,960 --> 01:50:57,630
it's based on a similar name well there

2148
01:51:01,670 --> 01:50:59,970
are so many towns and cities in in

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01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:01,680
Britain you could find any name you

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01:51:06,980 --> 01:51:05,370
wanted and they say oh we found a name

2151
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:06,990
that similar to Camelot yeah Oh

2152
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:08,400
brilliant

2153
01:51:12,710 --> 01:51:10,650
if you're going to look into an ancient

2154
01:51:16,010 --> 01:51:12,720
mythology and actually find it within

2155
01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:16,020
history you have to have multiple points

2156
01:51:21,170 --> 01:51:17,040
of contact

2157
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:21,180
not a single similarity so when looking

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01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:25,170
at the Genesis story there were multiple

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01:51:29,930 --> 01:51:27,930
points of evidence which pointed towards

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01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:29,940
the Genesis story being the hymn to the

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01:51:35,450 --> 01:51:32,250
art and it wasn't just a similarity of

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01:51:37,460 --> 01:51:35,460
one name or one person or something I I

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01:51:40,480 --> 01:51:37,470
forget how many points of similarity I

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01:51:43,610 --> 01:51:40,490
found but it was something like 20 or so

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01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:43,620
different points which all alluded to

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01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:45,840
this story being the hymn to the art and

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01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:47,370
and that's what you've got to do you've

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01:51:51,070 --> 01:51:48,930
got to do the research properly you

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01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:51,080
can't just say oh look I found a similar

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01:51:55,910 --> 01:51:53,520
town that sounds like Avalon or

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01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:55,920
something it's got to go much deeper

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01:52:01,370 --> 01:51:59,040
than that so yeah III do roll my eyes a

2173
01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:01,380
little bit but I roll my eyes academia

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01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:03,450
as well because they miss the whole

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01:52:11,660 --> 01:52:07,650
story as well you know you you have this

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01:52:15,110 --> 01:52:11,670
story I think one of the guys was a guy

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01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:15,120
house whole who wrote a story about he's

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01:52:20,780 --> 01:52:16,530
the professor who got a hundred and

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01:52:23,540 --> 01:52:20,790
forty thousand pounds to go and write a

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01:52:26,780 --> 01:52:23,550
story about King Arthur and he wrote a

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01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:26,790
history of King Arthur without ever

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01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:30,810
reading the Vulgate cycle now that is

2183
01:52:38,660 --> 01:52:34,170
rather like writing a history of Jesus

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01:52:41,210 --> 01:52:38,670
without reading the Gospels all right

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01:52:42,890 --> 01:52:41,220
this guy was actually paid to write this

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01:52:46,130 --> 01:52:42,900
little booklet that he wrote and you

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01:52:47,990 --> 01:52:46,140
think hold on is is this scholarship you

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01:52:49,970 --> 01:52:48,000
know this is why I despair sometimes

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01:52:54,530 --> 01:52:49,980
with modern academia you wouldn't get

2190
01:52:57,290 --> 01:52:54,540
the old Victorian historians doing that

2191
01:52:59,720 --> 01:52:57,300
they would spend years looking into this

2192
01:53:03,220 --> 01:52:59,730
subject and write a vast tome of you

2193
01:53:06,020 --> 01:53:03,230
know 800 pages on the history of Arthur

2194
01:53:07,649 --> 01:53:06,030
but you don't get that in modern

2195
01:53:09,629 --> 01:53:07,659
academia I think his book was

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01:53:13,729 --> 01:53:09,639
like a hundred and eighty pages and it

2197
01:53:16,949 --> 01:53:13,739
never ever touched on the Vulgate cycle

2198
01:53:22,169 --> 01:53:16,959
you had the whole of the United Kingdom

2199
01:53:25,229 --> 01:53:22,179
that and without exaggerating here that

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01:53:29,100 --> 01:53:25,239
truly believed that King Arthur was real

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and you are doing what you're doing

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01:53:39,899 --> 01:53:31,539
can you safely walk down the streets I

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01:53:42,359 --> 01:53:39,909
mean because they don't like me linking

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01:53:45,540 --> 01:53:42,369
Arthur back-to-back to the Gospel story

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01:53:48,870 --> 01:53:45,550
you and I I don't like it from our

2206
01:53:49,790 --> 01:53:48,880
theorem purists because they don't like

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01:53:52,919 --> 01:53:49,800
me

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01:53:54,270 --> 01:53:52,929
linking well destroying their Arthur

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01:53:57,540 --> 01:53:54,280
really because they have this wonderful

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01:54:00,000 --> 01:53:57,550
hero British hero and suddenly he's not

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01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:00,010
a British hero at all he's he's actually

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01:54:07,229 --> 01:54:03,489
a Judean hero back in the first century

2213
01:54:08,489 --> 01:54:07,239
that's a guy that says King Arthur

2214
01:54:15,029 --> 01:54:08,499
wasn't real

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01:54:16,770 --> 01:54:15,039
what him get a rope our guest tonight

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01:54:18,419 --> 01:54:16,780
Ralph Ellison's take a break right here

2217
01:54:21,060 --> 01:54:18,429
we come back we're gonna do some King

2218
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:21,070
Solomon that's right he was a pharaoh

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this is fade to black I'm you know Jimmy

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Church more Ralph after this short break

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all right welcome back fade to black our

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01:58:46,470 --> 01:58:43,030
guest tonight Ralph Ellis nothing like

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01:58:49,830 --> 01:58:46,480
bringing the knowledge that's what this

2312
01:58:52,530 --> 01:58:49,840
show is about tipping the boat over and

2313
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:52,540
Ralph nobody does it better than you my

2314
01:58:59,190 --> 01:58:56,410
friend let's just go there let's do King

2315
01:59:00,990 --> 01:58:59,200
Solomon if we're just going to take

2316
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:01,000
everything and throw it out the window

2317
01:59:06,890 --> 01:59:04,210
King Solomon was a Pharaoh I'm gonna

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01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:06,900
hand that I'm gonna hand that off to you

2319
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:09,370
yeah so we're going back into Egypt

2320
01:59:13,260 --> 01:59:11,530
again like all of these stories you know

2321
01:59:15,540 --> 01:59:13,270
and I was looking for Solomon because we

2322
01:59:17,310 --> 01:59:15,550
got this we always have these missing

2323
01:59:19,290 --> 01:59:17,320
people you know all of these famous

2324
01:59:21,150 --> 01:59:19,300
characters from the tannic from the

2325
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:21,160
Bible they're all missing from the

2326
01:59:24,900 --> 01:59:22,930
historical record and you've got a thing

2327
01:59:29,490 --> 01:59:24,910
hold on a minute you know either this

2328
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:29,500
book is complete mythology or we're

2329
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:31,810
looking in the wrong place or maybe in

2330
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:34,210
the wrong era for these these people and

2331
01:59:41,130 --> 01:59:37,090
so I I sort of went looking for Solomon

2332
01:59:43,590 --> 01:59:41,140
and I didn't find him initially I found

2333
01:59:46,860 --> 01:59:43,600
the key I found King David instead right

2334
01:59:50,910 --> 01:59:46,870
well because let me jump in King Solomon

2335
01:59:54,300 --> 01:59:50,920
for as great and as written about as he

2336
01:59:55,620 --> 01:59:54,310
is in the Bible there is there isn't

2337
01:59:57,150 --> 01:59:55,630
anything out there if you're gonna go

2338
01:59:59,700 --> 01:59:57,160
search from King Solomon you're gonna

2339
02:00:01,950 --> 01:59:59,710
find nothing but dead ends right there

2340
02:00:04,470 --> 02:00:01,960
absolutely no sculpture nothing and

2341
02:00:07,610 --> 02:00:04,480
nothing note nothing written King

2342
02:00:11,850 --> 02:00:07,620
Solomon's my everything that is there is

2343
02:00:14,970 --> 02:00:11,860
could it all be myth well according to

2344
02:00:19,380 --> 02:00:14,980
what they call the minimalists within

2345
02:00:22,310 --> 02:00:19,390
the historical fraternity yes he didn't

2346
02:00:25,500 --> 02:00:22,320
exist if you read Silverman and Filkins

2347
02:00:28,290 --> 02:00:25,510
silk'n Stein who are some of the two

2348
02:00:30,420 --> 02:00:28,300
great archaeologists from Israel and

2349
02:00:32,190 --> 02:00:30,430
they will say that it's complete

2350
02:00:35,340 --> 02:00:32,200
mythology because they cannot find

2351
02:00:38,010 --> 02:00:35,350
anything to do with the United Monarchy

2352
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:38,020
in fact they say that at the time that

2353
02:00:44,390 --> 02:00:40,290
we're talking here the 10th century our

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02:00:48,060 --> 02:00:44,400
BC Jerusalem was no more than a village

2355
02:00:50,069 --> 02:00:48,070
so there was no monarchy there was no

2356
02:00:51,779 --> 02:00:50,079
great Empire there was no wealth

2357
02:00:54,540 --> 02:00:51,789
there was no Solomon there was no King

2358
02:00:56,339 --> 02:00:54,550
David because he's just not there in the

2359
02:00:59,790 --> 02:00:56,349
historical record so if you're gonna

2360
02:01:01,859 --> 02:00:59,800
find if you have an inkling that the

2361
02:01:04,619 --> 02:01:01,869
biblical story is correct and I have

2362
02:01:07,889 --> 02:01:04,629
this inkling now because I found so many

2363
02:01:09,689 --> 02:01:07,899
of these people already in the

2364
02:01:11,699 --> 02:01:09,699
historical record you know the the

2365
02:01:14,399 --> 02:01:11,709
Israelites became the Hyksos and so on

2366
02:01:15,509 --> 02:01:14,409
if we're going to find the United

2367
02:01:19,169 --> 02:01:15,519
Monarchy we're gonna have to look

2368
02:01:21,179 --> 02:01:19,179
somewhere else for them and the first

2369
02:01:24,629 --> 02:01:21,189
indication that this was an Egyptian

2370
02:01:28,109 --> 02:01:24,639
story is King David who was known for

2371
02:01:31,439 --> 02:01:28,119
his star in his City the Star of David

2372
02:01:35,159 --> 02:01:31,449
the City of David and there was a

2373
02:01:38,369 --> 02:01:35,169
pharaoh at exactly the same time as

2374
02:01:41,219 --> 02:01:38,379
David in the historical record who was

2375
02:01:45,629 --> 02:01:41,229
known for his star in his City and that

2376
02:01:49,500 --> 02:01:45,639
is possible haya net who is known in the

2377
02:01:53,489 --> 02:01:49,510
Greek record which is what we have today

2378
02:01:56,279 --> 02:01:53,499
he is known as soo sins and he was known

2379
02:01:59,040 --> 02:01:56,289
for exactly the same symbolism as King

2380
02:02:00,989 --> 02:01:59,050
David was so I thought well you know

2381
02:02:02,549 --> 02:02:00,999
this is interesting we'll we'll run with

2382
02:02:03,929 --> 02:02:02,559
this and see what happens and as I was

2383
02:02:06,569 --> 02:02:03,939
saying before if you're looking into

2384
02:02:08,819 --> 02:02:06,579
mythology you can't just find one

2385
02:02:10,679 --> 02:02:08,829
similarity and say look I found this guy

2386
02:02:14,250 --> 02:02:10,689
you've got us you've got to find

2387
02:02:16,439 --> 02:02:14,260
multiple similarities and even better

2388
02:02:18,839 --> 02:02:16,449
and what is actually happened in this

2389
02:02:21,709 --> 02:02:18,849
case is once you've made the

2390
02:02:25,729 --> 02:02:21,719
identification it's got to explain

2391
02:02:28,139 --> 02:02:25,739
things that were previously inexplicable

2392
02:02:30,389 --> 02:02:28,149
then you know you're on the right Road

2393
02:02:32,459 --> 02:02:30,399
and this did that as well because what

2394
02:02:35,369 --> 02:02:32,469
it did is it explained exactly who the

2395
02:02:37,109 --> 02:02:35,379
Queen of Sheba was who is this nebulous

2396
02:02:39,829 --> 02:02:37,119
figure that nobody knows who a nurse she

2397
02:02:44,819 --> 02:02:39,839
was and yet this new identification

2398
02:02:47,279 --> 02:02:44,829
showed who the Queen of Sheba was so we

2399
02:02:50,429 --> 02:02:47,289
had this link back to pass Ibaka high on

2400
02:02:53,129 --> 02:02:50,439
it who was a 21st dynasty pharaoh of

2401
02:02:59,699 --> 02:02:53,139
egypt who lived at the same time as as

2402
02:03:03,179 --> 02:02:59,709
David and his name was either duet or

2403
02:03:03,689 --> 02:03:03,189
Sheba so you have these big long names

2404
02:03:06,109 --> 02:03:03,699
for the

2405
02:03:10,379 --> 02:03:06,119
Egyptian pharaohs but you can choose a

2406
02:03:13,279 --> 02:03:10,389
portion of his name and this guy was

2407
02:03:16,259 --> 02:03:13,289
known either as duet or Sheba

2408
02:03:18,449 --> 02:03:16,269
so the duet is where we get David from

2409
02:03:21,750 --> 02:03:18,459
because if you look in the Bible the

2410
02:03:24,270 --> 02:03:21,760
name for King David was King duet so

2411
02:03:27,270 --> 02:03:24,280
that was his name so we're on the right

2412
02:03:31,219 --> 02:03:27,280
road here and but he was also known in

2413
02:03:33,479 --> 02:03:31,229
the Egyptian record as king Sheba and

2414
02:03:37,169 --> 02:03:33,489
this is where we get the Queen of Sheba

2415
02:03:42,239 --> 02:03:37,179
from so it turns out if you look very

2416
02:03:43,229 --> 02:03:42,249
closely at the biblical record King

2417
02:03:47,219 --> 02:03:43,239
David married

2418
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:47,229
Bathsheba that was his last wife yeah

2419
02:03:52,290 --> 02:03:49,050
that was his last wife his favorite wife

2420
02:03:56,790 --> 02:03:52,300
who was much much younger than than he

2421
02:04:01,020 --> 02:03:56,800
was and she was called Bathsheba which

2422
02:04:03,180 --> 02:04:01,030
means the daughter of Sheba but now in

2423
02:04:06,959 --> 02:04:03,190
the historical record in the Egyptian

2424
02:04:10,739 --> 02:04:06,969
record this same guy King David was

2425
02:04:13,410 --> 02:04:10,749
called King Sheba so now we have King

2426
02:04:14,100 --> 02:04:13,420
Sheba and Bathsheba the daughter of

2427
02:04:18,089 --> 02:04:14,110
Sheba

2428
02:04:20,759 --> 02:04:18,099
so Bathsheba who became the wife of King

2429
02:04:23,129 --> 02:04:20,769
David was was actually his daughter so

2430
02:04:25,229 --> 02:04:23,139
he married his daughter and this is

2431
02:04:27,029 --> 02:04:25,239
quite often we have this in the New

2432
02:04:28,859 --> 02:04:27,039
Testament as well but always back

2433
02:04:31,919 --> 02:04:28,869
through the new through the Old

2434
02:04:34,439 --> 02:04:31,929
Testament we have these big cover-ups in

2435
02:04:38,219 --> 02:04:34,449
the story because later theologians

2436
02:04:41,819 --> 02:04:38,229
Jewish rabbis didn't want you to know

2437
02:04:44,910 --> 02:04:41,829
that all of these people were marrying

2438
02:04:47,219 --> 02:04:44,920
their sisters and daughters it was not

2439
02:04:50,069 --> 02:04:47,229
acceptable in in later eras and so they

2440
02:04:51,899 --> 02:04:50,079
covered it up this is why I mean even in

2441
02:04:55,109 --> 02:04:51,909
the first century you know have people

2442
02:04:58,069 --> 02:04:55,119
like King Agrippa Merritt is his sister

2443
02:05:00,540 --> 02:04:58,079
and Simon majus married his sister and

2444
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:00,550
Jesus married his sister who was Mary

2445
02:05:05,489 --> 02:05:02,650
Magdalene all of these people were

2446
02:05:05,879 --> 02:05:05,499
marrying within the family Queen Thea

2447
02:05:09,319 --> 02:05:05,889
Musa

2448
02:05:11,879 --> 02:05:09,329
Aranea married her brother

2449
02:05:14,370 --> 02:05:11,889
queen Cleopatra married both of her

2450
02:05:15,700 --> 02:05:14,380
brothers this was just normal Egyptian

2451
02:05:17,740 --> 02:05:15,710
practice

2452
02:05:20,590 --> 02:05:17,750
but what they've tried to do is cover it

2453
02:05:22,540 --> 02:05:20,600
up and so they covered up the fact that

2454
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:22,550
Bathsheba the daughter of Sheba was

2455
02:05:28,930 --> 02:05:25,730
actually King David's daughter so he

2456
02:05:31,479 --> 02:05:28,940
married his daughter now I wanted to ask

2457
02:05:32,979 --> 02:05:31,489
you well quickly well just before you

2458
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:32,989
jump in there Jimmy

2459
02:05:40,660 --> 02:05:36,050
utter what happened is she was Bathsheba

2460
02:05:45,610 --> 02:05:40,670
when she married the king she became the

2461
02:05:47,590 --> 02:05:45,620
Queen of Sheba the Bathsheba became the

2462
02:05:49,479 --> 02:05:47,600
mulkear Sheba the Queen of Sheba and

2463
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:49,489
this is where we get the Queen of Sheba

2464
02:05:56,890 --> 02:05:53,930
from so now we know who she was she was

2465
02:06:01,840 --> 02:05:56,900
Bathsheba and she was the daughter of

2466
02:06:04,180 --> 02:06:01,850
King David now with with the myth

2467
02:06:06,250 --> 02:06:04,190
because you're right about that the

2468
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:06,260
archaeological record was having a hard

2469
02:06:12,220 --> 02:06:09,650
time getting anything solid on King

2470
02:06:14,979 --> 02:06:12,230
Solomon or his mines or gold or the

2471
02:06:21,090 --> 02:06:14,989
treasures or the tunnels or or anything

2472
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:21,100
at all how did that move from Egypt

2473
02:06:26,650 --> 02:06:23,890
geographically they're very close but

2474
02:06:28,540 --> 02:06:26,660
you know the Temple Mount and everything

2475
02:06:31,750 --> 02:06:28,550
that it was supposed to have been there

2476
02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:31,760
originally for King Solomon how did that

2477
02:06:41,020 --> 02:06:37,130
move from Egypt to Israel yeah

2478
02:06:43,300 --> 02:06:41,030
interesting good question because part

2479
02:06:46,300 --> 02:06:43,310
of the mix-up is because the the the two

2480
02:06:49,060 --> 02:06:46,310
major cities had the same name so the

2481
02:06:53,580 --> 02:06:49,070
capital city of this particular Pharaoh

2482
02:06:56,650 --> 02:06:53,590
Pacifica hi Annette was xoan and

2483
02:07:01,840 --> 02:06:56,660
Jerusalem is called Zion it has the same

2484
02:07:04,229 --> 02:07:01,850
name with in Aramaic and so there's an

2485
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:04,239
easy confusion to make between the two

2486
02:07:11,320 --> 02:07:07,370
now this particular pharaoh of this

2487
02:07:15,220 --> 02:07:11,330
dynasty was originally just a dynasty of

2488
02:07:18,670 --> 02:07:15,230
lower egypt in the nile delta but they

2489
02:07:23,320 --> 02:07:18,680
started a big expansion they became the

2490
02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:23,330
big global monarchy that the Bible

2491
02:07:29,530 --> 02:07:26,330
describes so they took over most of us

2492
02:07:33,550 --> 02:07:29,540
Upper Egypt and then they took over

2493
02:07:37,690 --> 02:07:33,560
all of the levant all of Judea in Israel

2494
02:07:42,430 --> 02:07:37,700
and southern Syria they took over all of

2495
02:07:46,090 --> 02:07:42,440
those regions so you can say that this

2496
02:07:50,050 --> 02:07:46,100
particular Pharaoh was indeed the king

2497
02:07:52,090 --> 02:07:50,060
of what became Judea because they took

2498
02:07:54,340 --> 02:07:52,100
it over they were the king of Judea but

2499
02:08:00,940 --> 02:07:54,350
their capital city was not a scion it

2500
02:08:06,730 --> 02:08:00,950
was at xoan and so they actually became

2501
02:08:09,070 --> 02:08:06,740
the kings of Judea in later eras during

2502
02:08:11,710 --> 02:08:09,080
the divided monarchy so the monarchy

2503
02:08:15,820 --> 02:08:11,720
divided after the United Monarchy after

2504
02:08:18,610 --> 02:08:15,830
Solomon the monarchy divided and were

2505
02:08:22,180 --> 02:08:18,620
separated and this is when we start to

2506
02:08:27,340 --> 02:08:22,190
get some of these people living in and

2507
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:27,350
ruling in Judea and and Israel but the

2508
02:08:32,200 --> 02:08:30,170
main time we get them actually living in

2509
02:08:35,530 --> 02:08:32,210
in the Levant instead of Egypt he's

2510
02:08:38,170 --> 02:08:35,540
after the Babylonian exile because in

2511
02:08:41,650 --> 02:08:38,180
the 7th century the Persians came down

2512
02:08:44,130 --> 02:08:41,660
and took over all of the Levant a wall

2513
02:08:47,380 --> 02:08:44,140
of Judea and they took over most of

2514
02:08:51,790 --> 02:08:47,390
Lower Egypt as well and they shipped off

2515
02:08:54,210 --> 02:08:51,800
all of the Israelites to Mesopotamia and

2516
02:08:57,880 --> 02:08:54,220
held them in the Babylonian exile and

2517
02:09:02,730 --> 02:08:57,890
they were there for about 40 years they

2518
02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:05,350
Darius I think it was Daris the second

2519
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:08,570
and they were then allowed to move back

2520
02:09:13,660 --> 02:09:12,290
to the Near East and but they weren't

2521
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:13,670
allowed to go back to Egypt at that

2522
02:09:18,700 --> 02:09:15,530
point they were only allowed to go back

2523
02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:18,710
to Judea and Israel and this is when we

2524
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:21,110
now get the story being written about

2525
02:09:26,170 --> 02:09:23,090
Jerusalem and Judea

2526
02:09:28,150 --> 02:09:26,180
instead of Egypt because now Egypt is

2527
02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:28,160
the pariah state they don't want

2528
02:09:31,960 --> 02:09:29,690
anything to do with Egypt they've been

2529
02:09:37,780 --> 02:09:31,970
kicked out of Egypt on two three

2530
02:09:39,460 --> 02:09:37,790
occasions and they if you go into Psalms

2531
02:09:41,530 --> 02:09:39,470
and some of the later books you will

2532
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:41,540
find that Egypt is the pariah state they

2533
02:09:45,640 --> 02:09:43,130
don't want anything to do with it

2534
02:09:48,340 --> 02:09:45,650
something justice they just rewrote it

2535
02:09:51,610 --> 02:09:48,350
they rewrote the story and they located

2536
02:09:54,700 --> 02:09:51,620
everything in Jerusalem instead of Lower

2537
02:09:56,530 --> 02:09:54,710
Egypt right yeah and I don't think they

2538
02:09:58,600 --> 02:09:56,540
wanted to be pharaohs anymore because

2539
02:10:00,730 --> 02:09:58,610
remember they you know after the

2540
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:00,740
Babylonian exile they had their new

2541
02:10:07,090 --> 02:10:02,570
religion and their new religion was

2542
02:10:09,730 --> 02:10:07,100
monotheistic and it was now solely one

2543
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:09,740
100 percent sort of Israelite Jewish

2544
02:10:14,260 --> 02:10:12,290
they didn't want to be associated with

2545
02:10:17,500 --> 02:10:14,270
Egypt anymore they didn't want to be

2546
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:17,510
associated with polytheism from Egypt

2547
02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:20,930
which they used to indulge in they

2548
02:10:29,650 --> 02:10:25,850
didn't want to be known as powerful

2549
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:29,660
oppressors they had sold a sob story to

2550
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:32,890
the people their own people of being

2551
02:10:37,570 --> 02:10:35,810
persecuted exiles you know well they

2552
02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:37,580
treated us so badly those horrible

2553
02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:40,850
Egyptians is this this persecution

2554
02:10:47,200 --> 02:10:43,610
complex which sells so well to the

2555
02:10:49,510 --> 02:10:47,210
people it's like modern Islam where

2556
02:10:51,820 --> 02:10:49,520
whatever you say about Islam they'll say

2557
02:10:54,850 --> 02:10:51,830
oh we're persecuted we're persecuted

2558
02:10:56,830 --> 02:10:54,860
because it sells well to the people and

2559
02:10:58,540 --> 02:10:56,840
that's the story they solved they didn't

2560
02:11:00,880 --> 02:10:58,550
want people to know that they were the

2561
02:11:03,610 --> 02:11:00,890
Hyksos and therefore the most powerful

2562
02:11:05,950 --> 02:11:03,620
people in the Near East at the time they

2563
02:11:08,050 --> 02:11:05,960
didn't want people to know that they

2564
02:11:09,570 --> 02:11:08,060
were pharaohs again within the new night

2565
02:11:12,160 --> 02:11:09,580
United Monarchy

2566
02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:12,170
although they're you know that the

2567
02:11:17,830 --> 02:11:14,450
Tanakh does say that David and Solomon

2568
02:11:19,630 --> 02:11:17,840
were quite powerful people it was much

2569
02:11:21,370 --> 02:11:19,640
easier to sell a sob story that they

2570
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:21,380
were being oppressed and so they

2571
02:11:27,730 --> 02:11:24,010
divorced themselves completely from the

2572
02:11:30,100 --> 02:11:27,740
Egyptian history that that had been

2573
02:11:33,540 --> 02:11:30,110
their true history well how does well

2574
02:11:35,950 --> 02:11:33,550
how does the the Roman influence

2575
02:11:36,970 --> 02:11:35,960
throughout that period you know at

2576
02:11:40,210 --> 02:11:36,980
around 0

2577
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:40,220
you know 2 33 AD and up to 70 in the

2578
02:11:44,530 --> 02:11:42,530
revolt how does that play into the

2579
02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:44,540
narrative - as well that they were

2580
02:11:50,140 --> 02:11:47,050
trying to control and I'm talking about

2581
02:11:53,890 --> 02:11:50,150
Jew Christianity which happened a little

2582
02:11:56,150 --> 02:11:53,900
bit later but the Jewish revolt how does

2583
02:11:59,900 --> 02:11:56,160
that play into - as well because the

2584
02:12:01,430 --> 02:11:59,910
to control the masses at that time I'm

2585
02:12:04,850 --> 02:12:01,440
not talking about Rome I'm talking about

2586
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:04,860
the Jewish uprising as well does that

2587
02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:09,450
come in - to the play yeah it does

2588
02:12:13,490 --> 02:12:11,610
because obviously this history was not

2589
02:12:15,050 --> 02:12:13,500
lost to everybody so there were

2590
02:12:17,990 --> 02:12:15,060
divisions there were many divisions

2591
02:12:21,340 --> 02:12:18,000
within Judaism in the first century

2592
02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:21,350
there were four different sects of

2593
02:12:27,500 --> 02:12:25,130
Judaism who all had different ideas and

2594
02:12:29,690 --> 02:12:27,510
that the sect that was the most

2595
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:29,700
revolutionary was the Egyptian sect

2596
02:12:35,180 --> 02:12:31,890
which was the Church of Jesus and James

2597
02:12:37,850 --> 02:12:35,190
this is why Jesus in in both in the

2598
02:12:40,850 --> 02:12:37,860
Gospels and also in Josephus is called

2599
02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:40,860
the Egyptian false prophet because they

2600
02:12:45,620 --> 02:12:42,810
knew he came out of Egypt and this was

2601
02:12:48,920 --> 02:12:45,630
the sect of Judaism that had kept these

2602
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:48,930
old traditions they understood the true

2603
02:12:53,870 --> 02:12:51,570
history of Judaism because they were

2604
02:12:56,390 --> 02:12:53,880
linked to Egypt they were descended from

2605
02:13:01,640 --> 02:12:56,400
the Pharaohs of Egypt they understood

2606
02:13:04,430 --> 02:13:01,650
their history and this was the the what

2607
02:13:06,890 --> 02:13:04,440
caused the Jewish revolt and the big

2608
02:13:09,860 --> 02:13:06,900
Jewish civil war because we you now had

2609
02:13:13,130 --> 02:13:09,870
these this war between the rabbis that

2610
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:13,140
were saying that they were purely purely

2611
02:13:18,410 --> 02:13:15,570
Judaic and had always lived in Judea and

2612
02:13:19,940 --> 02:13:18,420
the Egyptian false prophet Jesus who was

2613
02:13:22,100 --> 02:13:19,950
saying hey D hold on on him

2614
02:13:24,100 --> 02:13:22,110
we were actually Pharaohs of Egypt

2615
02:13:28,460 --> 02:13:24,110
before and he was trying to resurrect

2616
02:13:33,140 --> 02:13:28,470
the previous dynasties the Egyptian

2617
02:13:34,910 --> 02:13:33,150
Judaism which came out of Egypt and that

2618
02:13:37,550 --> 02:13:34,920
was the reason for the Jewish revolt and

2619
02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:37,560
he lost that revolt and so a lot of this

2620
02:13:43,160 --> 02:13:39,570
information got suppressed yet again

2621
02:13:45,740 --> 02:13:43,170
because the Egyptian sect of Judaism

2622
02:13:47,180 --> 02:13:45,750
lost that Jewish revolt and so it all

2623
02:13:50,180 --> 02:13:47,190
went underground again

2624
02:13:52,670 --> 02:13:50,190
I got it went well I don't hate it

2625
02:13:56,330 --> 02:13:52,680
I feel like I'm interrupting you but to

2626
02:13:59,210 --> 02:13:56,340
stay on this on this point here just

2627
02:14:01,970 --> 02:13:59,220
this question just came in define the

2628
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:01,980
historical record when it comes to David

2629
02:14:07,479 --> 02:14:04,530
and Solomon do we accept the Assyrian

2630
02:14:11,080 --> 02:14:07,489
and the Babylonian records

2631
02:14:14,050 --> 02:14:11,090
well they don't really mention David and

2632
02:14:17,709 --> 02:14:14,060
Solomon at all so this was the whole

2633
02:14:19,420 --> 02:14:17,719
problem with the David and Solomon story

2634
02:14:22,270 --> 02:14:19,430
that there was no evidence whatsoever

2635
02:14:24,220 --> 02:14:22,280
until they felt found that tailed and

2636
02:14:26,470 --> 02:14:24,230
Stella there was no information

2637
02:14:28,030 --> 02:14:26,480
whatsoever these people ever existed and

2638
02:14:30,010 --> 02:14:28,040
then they found this Stella which

2639
02:14:32,670 --> 02:14:30,020
they're all raving about but all it says

2640
02:14:36,030 --> 02:14:32,680
is that the house of David

2641
02:14:38,590 --> 02:14:36,040
well I doesn't tell you anything about

2642
02:14:40,870 --> 02:14:38,600
David and Solomon apart from the house

2643
02:14:42,610 --> 02:14:40,880
of David did exist but these fairies

2644
02:14:47,170 --> 02:14:42,620
that was their name he was caulking do

2645
02:14:50,140 --> 02:14:47,180
it he was caulking David so yeah we know

2646
02:14:52,740 --> 02:14:50,150
this guy existed but the trouble was

2647
02:14:56,260 --> 02:14:52,750
there is no mention of of this dynasty

2648
02:14:57,130 --> 02:14:56,270
outside of the biblical text none

2649
02:15:03,840 --> 02:14:57,140
whatsoever

2650
02:15:06,490 --> 02:15:03,850
so it's not until you get to you the

2651
02:15:10,750 --> 02:15:06,500
divided monarchy at later stages that we

2652
02:15:13,750 --> 02:15:10,760
get some some mention from the

2653
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:13,760
Babylonian and and Persian texts talking

2654
02:15:18,370 --> 02:15:15,890
about the kings of Judea but that's much

2655
02:15:20,680 --> 02:15:18,380
later so we've got an entire dynasty

2656
02:15:23,860 --> 02:15:20,690
that is missing but if you look back

2657
02:15:26,500 --> 02:15:23,870
into Egypt they are there and when we

2658
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:26,510
know they're there because as I say I've

2659
02:15:35,950 --> 02:15:31,850
got multiple points all pointing towards

2660
02:15:40,090 --> 02:15:35,960
that that that conclusion so we have

2661
02:15:43,990 --> 02:15:40,100
things like thee the daughter of King

2662
02:15:46,120 --> 02:15:44,000
David was called makka tamar and the

2663
02:15:49,750 --> 02:15:46,130
daughter of this Pharaoh in Egypt was

2664
02:15:55,150 --> 02:15:49,760
called Makara mu Tim hunt it is the same

2665
02:15:59,680 --> 02:15:55,160
daughter it is the same story the army

2666
02:16:01,750 --> 02:15:59,690
general of King David was called Joab

2667
02:16:06,160 --> 02:16:01,760
he's his most famous and most loyal

2668
02:16:08,170 --> 02:16:06,170
general was called Joab and the army

2669
02:16:11,709 --> 02:16:08,180
commander of this particular Pharaoh was

2670
02:16:14,770 --> 02:16:11,719
called Joab and yet it's the same name

2671
02:16:17,140 --> 02:16:14,780
right and this also takes us back into

2672
02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:17,150
Masonic history because Masonic history

2673
02:16:21,340 --> 02:16:19,610
is based on King David and King Solomon

2674
02:16:26,430 --> 02:16:21,350
and they're famous

2675
02:16:30,700 --> 02:16:26,440
detect who was called Hyrum a Biff and

2676
02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:30,710
the Egyptian architect of this

2677
02:16:38,740 --> 02:16:34,570
particular Pharaoh was Harry woman at if

2678
02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:38,750
so now it's telling us what is not even

2679
02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:40,880
known within Masonic history because no

2680
02:16:48,010 --> 02:16:43,610
one really knows who Hyrum

2681
02:16:49,540 --> 02:16:48,020
BIF was or what his name means but in

2682
02:16:53,230 --> 02:16:49,550
the Egyptian we have the very same

2683
02:16:58,450 --> 02:16:53,240
character Hyrum and his name is actually

2684
02:17:04,839 --> 02:16:58,460
not here he ran his name is Harry MA at

2685
02:17:06,430 --> 02:17:04,849
if which means the son of Horace so now

2686
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:06,440
we have his name we actually know who

2687
02:17:10,810 --> 02:17:08,330
this guy was he was the son of Horace

2688
02:17:13,690 --> 02:17:10,820
and this was a standard Egyptian name

2689
02:17:17,050 --> 02:17:13,700
honoring Horus the god horus the hawk

2690
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:17,060
headed God and so now we know who her

2691
02:17:25,990 --> 02:17:19,450
mobile was who is the famous hero of

2692
02:17:29,740 --> 02:17:26,000
Masonic legend because masonry doesn't

2693
02:17:33,570 --> 02:17:29,750
honor King David or King Solomon they

2694
02:17:36,129 --> 02:17:33,580
concentrate on the architect of of these

2695
02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:36,139
two kings and the reason they do so

2696
02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:37,130
because that was always a bit of a

2697
02:17:40,810 --> 02:17:39,290
mystery you know okay masonry is to do

2698
02:17:43,419 --> 02:17:40,820
with building and things like that right

2699
02:17:46,300 --> 02:17:43,429
but why do you concentrate on a minor

2700
02:17:50,169 --> 02:17:46,310
figure instead of the king why not honor

2701
02:17:52,450 --> 02:17:50,179
King Solomon instead the reason it turns

2702
02:17:57,850 --> 02:17:52,460
out from Egyptian history is it looks

2703
02:18:02,440 --> 02:17:57,860
like Hyrum Abiff or Haru and that if was

2704
02:18:04,120 --> 02:18:02,450
the son of King David so obviously

2705
02:18:06,400 --> 02:18:04,130
within these families within his royal

2706
02:18:10,270 --> 02:18:06,410
families they tried to keep all of the

2707
02:18:12,459 --> 02:18:10,280
major positions within society within

2708
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:12,469
their own family and so they were trying

2709
02:18:17,320 --> 02:18:14,240
to keep the priesthood within their

2710
02:18:20,860 --> 02:18:17,330
family obviously the royal royalty

2711
02:18:23,890 --> 02:18:20,870
within their family and a lot of the

2712
02:18:26,410 --> 02:18:23,900
administration and why not the architect

2713
02:18:29,320 --> 02:18:26,420
the chief architect as well being within

2714
02:18:31,660 --> 02:18:29,330
the same family and so I think the

2715
02:18:34,629 --> 02:18:31,670
architect Hyrum a Biff was actually a

2716
02:18:35,169 --> 02:18:34,639
son of King David and that's that's why

2717
02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:35,179
he was

2718
02:18:45,129 --> 02:18:41,210
was Absalom who was the son of King

2719
02:18:48,429 --> 02:18:45,139
David who tried to take over the throne

2720
02:18:52,089 --> 02:18:48,439
of Israel so there was a civil war even

2721
02:18:55,330 --> 02:18:52,099
between father and son during the United

2722
02:18:58,559 --> 02:18:55,340
Monarchy when the son Absalom tried to

2723
02:19:01,570 --> 02:18:58,569
depose King David and kick him out and

2724
02:19:03,759 --> 02:19:01,580
they had this civil war and eventually

2725
02:19:07,419 --> 02:19:03,769
Absalom lost and he was killed

2726
02:19:09,400 --> 02:19:07,429
now what do we do with and listening to

2727
02:19:13,419 --> 02:19:09,410
this it blows my mind and there are

2728
02:19:15,939 --> 02:19:13,429
today there are Royal bloodlines and

2729
02:19:18,849 --> 02:19:15,949
monarchies right now on planet earth I'm

2730
02:19:21,849 --> 02:19:18,859
not gonna name names here that claim

2731
02:19:25,419 --> 02:19:21,859
bloodlines going back to King David

2732
02:19:27,580 --> 02:19:25,429
right it's in their name now what do we

2733
02:19:30,339 --> 02:19:27,590
do with that I mean is it based in

2734
02:19:33,639 --> 02:19:30,349
reality or is somebody lying here I

2735
02:19:36,759 --> 02:19:33,649
think it probably is based on reality

2736
02:19:38,919 --> 02:19:36,769
remember when Queen Elizabeth was was

2737
02:19:42,969 --> 02:19:38,929
crowned I didn't want to go there you

2738
02:19:45,459 --> 02:19:42,979
you can do it when she was crowned she

2739
02:19:47,860 --> 02:19:45,469
was anointed with oil in the same way

2740
02:19:51,250 --> 02:19:47,870
that Jesus was anointed with oil she

2741
02:19:53,380 --> 02:19:51,260
became the Messiah right the Messiah or

2742
02:19:55,990 --> 02:19:53,390
the Christ means The Anointed One and

2743
02:19:57,939 --> 02:19:56,000
when she went through her coronation she

2744
02:20:00,639 --> 02:19:57,949
was anointed with oil exactly the same

2745
02:20:05,620 --> 02:20:00,649
as Mary Magdalene anointed Jesus with

2746
02:20:08,110 --> 02:20:05,630
oil at the house of Simon at Bethany it

2747
02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:08,120
was the same ceremony and at that

2748
02:20:13,389 --> 02:20:09,770
ceremony while they were doing that they

2749
02:20:18,370 --> 02:20:13,399
played the hymn by Handel is it I can't

2750
02:20:20,860 --> 02:20:18,380
remember who wrote it which is King

2751
02:20:23,530 --> 02:20:20,870
Solomon if you remember that say that

2752
02:20:24,969 --> 02:20:23,540
they're rather famous hymn write about

2753
02:20:28,929 --> 02:20:24,979
King Solomon that's what they were

2754
02:20:31,179 --> 02:20:28,939
playing at the time yes there are

2755
02:20:34,300 --> 02:20:31,189
multiple hints that their current royal

2756
02:20:37,179 --> 02:20:34,310
families are linked in some fashion to

2757
02:20:42,130 --> 02:20:37,189
these ancient Egyptian families we have

2758
02:20:46,330 --> 02:20:42,140
them coming into northern Europe via the

2759
02:20:48,670 --> 02:20:46,340
Exile of Pharaoh I and and cath cinnamon

2760
02:20:48,969 --> 02:20:48,680
which we talked about earlier which was

2761
02:20:51,370 --> 02:20:48,979
the

2762
02:20:54,399 --> 02:20:51,380
exile out of Egypt which went via Spain

2763
02:20:57,639 --> 02:20:54,409
up towards Ireland and into Scotland and

2764
02:21:02,260 --> 02:20:57,649
as we said before all of these people

2765
02:21:04,870 --> 02:21:02,270
were were ginger as I said with

2766
02:21:06,670 --> 02:21:04,880
ramasees ii and there are lots of people

2767
02:21:09,340 --> 02:21:06,680
now on the internet all trying to claim

2768
02:21:11,139 --> 02:21:09,350
that you know queen of sheba was black

2769
02:21:13,599 --> 02:21:11,149
and solomon was black and david was

2770
02:21:15,910 --> 02:21:13,609
black it's all perfect nonsense I mean

2771
02:21:20,950 --> 02:21:15,920
even the Bible says that King David was

2772
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:20,960
red he was a redhead these were the

2773
02:21:24,969 --> 02:21:23,210
ginger phenotype all of these families

2774
02:21:27,550 --> 02:21:24,979
these royal families with a ginger

2775
02:21:29,319 --> 02:21:27,560
phenotype and then when you start

2776
02:21:32,109 --> 02:21:29,329
looking into our history and across

2777
02:21:35,800 --> 02:21:32,119
Europe history all of these royalty ten

2778
02:21:37,809 --> 02:21:35,810
tend to be gingers so if you look at

2779
02:21:39,639 --> 02:21:37,819
Alexander the Great he was a ginger head

2780
02:21:41,710 --> 02:21:39,649
if you look at all of the Scottish

2781
02:21:45,250 --> 02:21:41,720
monarchy of course he was ginger head if

2782
02:21:47,410 --> 02:21:45,260
you look at the Normans who took over

2783
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:47,420
Britain with William the first they

2784
02:21:54,069 --> 02:21:49,850
would injure head because they were not

2785
02:21:57,130 --> 02:21:54,079
French they were actually Scandinavian

2786
02:21:59,830 --> 02:21:57,140
they were the Norseman the Normans were

2787
02:22:03,370 --> 02:21:59,840
the Norse men so they they were Vikings

2788
02:22:05,559 --> 02:22:03,380
so all of our monarchy then were of

2789
02:22:07,689 --> 02:22:05,569
Viking blood and they all had ginger

2790
02:22:09,489 --> 02:22:07,699
hair you know Queen Elizabeth the first

2791
02:22:11,889 --> 02:22:09,499
and Henry the eighth were all

2792
02:22:14,979 --> 02:22:11,899
ginger-haired if you look at my other

2793
02:22:18,790 --> 02:22:14,989
story through Mary Magdalene who ended

2794
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:18,800
up in the South of France in in Provence

2795
02:22:24,969 --> 02:22:22,130
I linked her history down to orange

2796
02:22:26,649 --> 02:22:24,979
which is the famous town in the South of

2797
02:22:29,649 --> 02:22:26,659
France called orange which was an

2798
02:22:32,319 --> 02:22:29,659
independent principality and their

2799
02:22:34,710 --> 02:22:32,329
monarchy they they had a monarchy which

2800
02:22:38,200 --> 02:22:34,720
was known as the princes of orange and

2801
02:22:40,410 --> 02:22:38,210
their monarchy was eventually pushed out

2802
02:22:43,689 --> 02:22:40,420
into Holland which is why now the

2803
02:22:47,500 --> 02:22:43,699
princes of Hull princes of orange are

2804
02:22:50,019 --> 02:22:47,510
now living in Holland of course of those

2805
02:22:52,719 --> 02:22:50,029
just just to finish this point sure of

2806
02:22:56,139 --> 02:22:52,729
their monarchy are also ginger as well

2807
02:22:58,330 --> 02:22:56,149
and so it goes on okay now because it is

2808
02:23:01,450 --> 02:22:58,340
now five o'clock in the morning in here

2809
02:23:02,210 --> 02:23:01,460
now awake over there I'm gonna keep you

2810
02:23:03,830 --> 02:23:02,220
on for another

2811
02:23:05,510 --> 02:23:03,840
minutes I need to take a break here

2812
02:23:07,490 --> 02:23:05,520
because there's one other point that I

2813
02:23:10,040 --> 02:23:07,500
got a drive home because we're now

2814
02:23:12,920 --> 02:23:10,050
talking Holland I knew you were gonna go

2815
02:23:14,660 --> 02:23:12,930
with orange and move north okay so we're

2816
02:23:16,849 --> 02:23:14,670
gonna do just that when we come back

2817
02:23:19,070 --> 02:23:16,859
after the break because I'm gonna tie

2818
02:23:21,469 --> 02:23:19,080
all of this into the bilderbergs I have

2819
02:23:22,340 --> 02:23:21,479
a way to dyes that's right our guest

2820
02:23:25,160 --> 02:23:22,350
tonight Ralph

2821
02:23:26,540 --> 02:23:25,170
Ellis we're rewriting history once again

2822
02:23:28,639 --> 02:23:26,550
here on fade to black I'm your host

2823
02:23:30,469 --> 02:23:28,649
Jimmy Church stay with us more with

2824
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2825
02:23:50,831 --> 02:23:32,820
a little overtime everybody stay with us

2826
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all right doing a little overtime with

2910
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Ralph Ellis got our knowledge coming on

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tonight man oh man oh man alright so

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right before the break I did this and I

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love it when Ralph does this when we

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bring up orange South of France and

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start to talk about the that influence

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coming out of the Mediterranean and

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Israel through the South of France and

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then those bloodlines that went all

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across Europe and he had just bought up

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Holland and Ralph this is one of the the

2921
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trippy things for me was Prince Bernhard

2922
02:29:03,050 --> 02:29:01,410
his name now he was one of the founders

2923
02:29:07,250 --> 02:29:03,060
the founder of the Bilderberg Group

2924
02:29:10,099 --> 02:29:07,260
right and his name which is Bernhard

2925
02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:10,109
Frederik Everhard Leopold Julius Kurt

2926
02:29:19,099 --> 02:29:13,530
Karl Gottfried Peter Graf von Bligh stir

2927
02:29:21,020 --> 02:29:19,109
field planes right yeah claimed

2928
02:29:25,190 --> 02:29:21,030
bloodlines going all the way back

2929
02:29:28,340 --> 02:29:25,200
through Rome into Israel back to the

2930
02:29:33,610 --> 02:29:28,350
house of David that's that's a pretty

2931
02:29:38,920 --> 02:29:33,620
good bloodline but here right now he

2932
02:29:43,550 --> 02:29:38,930
Queen Juliana right of the Netherlands a

2933
02:29:46,400 --> 02:29:43,560
father of Princess Beatrix right so and

2934
02:29:48,230 --> 02:29:46,410
a highly regarded guy pretty dark figure

2935
02:29:50,990 --> 02:29:48,240
had his own controversial things but

2936
02:29:53,809 --> 02:29:51,000
nonetheless had these bloodlines going

2937
02:29:57,170 --> 02:29:53,819
all the way back to the house of David

2938
02:30:00,309 --> 02:29:57,180
I do we and and you said there is some

2939
02:30:02,990 --> 02:30:00,319
truth to this well here is somebody that

2940
02:30:04,580 --> 02:30:03,000
may have had those bloodlines but also

2941
02:30:07,820 --> 02:30:04,590
founded the Bilderberg Group

2942
02:30:09,770 --> 02:30:07,830
now we touch into the Cabal and the

2943
02:30:12,429 --> 02:30:09,780
Illuminati in the New World Order and

2944
02:30:16,040 --> 02:30:12,439
everything else that comes into play

2945
02:30:18,290 --> 02:30:16,050
yeah it's it's interesting and I was I

2946
02:30:21,230 --> 02:30:18,300
don't actually write about this very

2947
02:30:23,500 --> 02:30:21,240
much because I never got onto the

2948
02:30:26,210 --> 02:30:23,510
Bilderbergers in my mary magdalene book

2949
02:30:29,840 --> 02:30:26,220
but of course this family were linked

2950
02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:29,850
back to the princes of orange from south

2951
02:30:34,160 --> 02:30:30,720
of france

2952
02:30:35,900 --> 02:30:34,170
their royal standard has the insignia

2953
02:30:40,550 --> 02:30:35,910
from that town so if you look at the

2954
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:40,560
royal insignia of Prince Bernhard it has

2955
02:30:46,429 --> 02:30:44,010
two cornets and the two cornets are the

2956
02:30:51,340 --> 02:30:46,439
symbol of orange in the South of France

2957
02:30:55,130 --> 02:30:51,350
that directly link back into into the

2958
02:30:58,130 --> 02:30:55,140
princes of orange from the South of

2959
02:31:00,800 --> 02:30:58,140
France and yeah I think there is a

2960
02:31:02,660 --> 02:31:00,810
direct link here not only in having

2961
02:31:06,019 --> 02:31:02,670
ginger hair the same as Mary Magdalene

2962
02:31:10,250 --> 02:31:06,029
did but in her exile to the south of

2963
02:31:12,800 --> 02:31:10,260
France and where she ended up so her

2964
02:31:16,760 --> 02:31:12,810
sister is supposed to have ended up at

2965
02:31:19,670 --> 02:31:16,770
Tarascon which is the next town just

2966
02:31:22,490 --> 02:31:19,680
south of orange I think it is where they

2967
02:31:24,920 --> 02:31:22,500
have the the fabulous Tarascon beast

2968
02:31:30,410 --> 02:31:24,930
down there some sort of thing that looks

2969
02:31:34,940 --> 02:31:30,420
like a tortoise and they found it as far

2970
02:31:37,610 --> 02:31:34,950
as I can see that the the Principality

2971
02:31:44,630 --> 02:31:37,620
of orange because it has all of these

2972
02:31:46,670 --> 02:31:44,640
links back to gold orange Sun anything

2973
02:31:49,309 --> 02:31:46,680
that's to do and the cosmos itself

2974
02:31:52,690 --> 02:31:49,319
because remember the the founding Queen

2975
02:31:56,530 --> 02:31:52,700
that I traced back was Queen Aranea

2976
02:32:01,610 --> 02:31:56,540
which means the queen of the heavens and

2977
02:32:05,269 --> 02:32:01,620
Aranea has its links to or which means

2978
02:32:10,070 --> 02:32:05,279
gold in in latin of course and in french

2979
02:32:12,889 --> 02:32:10,080
and or is the basis of orange orange

2980
02:32:14,750 --> 02:32:12,899
because it was golden it's the golden

2981
02:32:17,660 --> 02:32:14,760
fruit and of course a golden fruit if

2982
02:32:19,940 --> 02:32:17,670
you put an orange up in the sky it looks

2983
02:32:27,889 --> 02:32:19,950
like the Sun it has a direct link with

2984
02:32:29,870 --> 02:32:27,899
the Sun and the the coat of arms of

2985
02:32:33,219 --> 02:32:29,880
orange of course is the orange fruit

2986
02:32:37,490 --> 02:32:33,229
it's based on on the same symbology and

2987
02:32:38,960 --> 02:32:37,500
this goes all the way through up into

2988
02:32:41,020 --> 02:32:38,970
Holland as you say they were exiled

2989
02:32:44,871 --> 02:32:41,030
there by

2990
02:32:49,371 --> 02:32:44,881
mainly by louis xiv they had a major

2991
02:32:51,861 --> 02:32:49,381
battle during the Reformation and this

2992
02:32:53,901 --> 02:32:51,871
Reformation battle went on for north

2993
02:32:55,281 --> 02:32:53,911
nearly a hundred years between the

2994
02:32:57,501 --> 02:32:55,291
Catholic Church and the Protestant

2995
02:33:01,541 --> 02:32:57,511
Church and obviously orange was

2996
02:33:03,801 --> 02:33:01,551
Protestant and this little orange

2997
02:33:06,230 --> 02:33:03,811
principality was the only Protestant

2998
02:33:08,841 --> 02:33:06,240
principality in the whole of France at

2999
02:33:11,121 --> 02:33:08,851
that time and it was persecuted for a

3000
02:33:14,571 --> 02:33:11,131
hundred years or more they had terrible

3001
02:33:17,690 --> 02:33:14,581
persecutions against the the Protestants

3002
02:33:19,730 --> 02:33:17,700
in France most of which who emigrated

3003
02:33:23,440 --> 02:33:19,740
elsewhere they went to Britain they went

3004
02:33:26,291 --> 02:33:23,450
to the South Africa which was opening up

3005
02:33:29,361 --> 02:33:26,301
but eventually a lot of them went up to

3006
02:33:33,591 --> 02:33:29,371
Holland and founded the the princes of

3007
02:33:35,661 --> 02:33:33,601
orange up in in Holland and so we have

3008
02:33:37,281 --> 02:33:35,671
this direct line through into Holland

3009
02:33:39,980 --> 02:33:37,291
and then as you say we have Prince

3010
02:33:45,371 --> 02:33:39,990
Bernhard this is the elder Prince

3011
02:33:50,451 --> 02:33:45,381
Bernhardt isn't it yeah he passed away

3012
02:33:54,831 --> 02:33:50,461
1934 it says here well he was Prince of

3013
02:33:56,980 --> 02:33:54,841
the Netherlands from 1948 to 1980 yeah

3014
02:33:59,720 --> 02:33:56,990
that was the later one but the guy who

3015
02:34:03,531 --> 02:33:59,730
as I say I don't write about this so I'm

3016
02:34:07,520 --> 02:34:03,541
just looking this up on an encyclopedia

3017
02:34:11,961 --> 02:34:07,530
here and they've found it says was his

3018
02:34:14,121 --> 02:34:11,971
father and he founded the Bilderbergers

3019
02:34:16,520 --> 02:34:14,131
back in nineteen fifties yeah

3020
02:34:20,241 --> 02:34:16,530
fifty-eight I think yeah something like

3021
02:34:23,001 --> 02:34:20,251
that so yeah so he's now linked with the

3022
02:34:25,251 --> 02:34:23,011
Bilderberg Bilderbergers which is this

3023
02:34:30,951 --> 02:34:25,261
obviously as everyone knows this secret

3024
02:34:33,881 --> 02:34:30,961
institution that has great wields fairly

3025
02:34:38,690 --> 02:34:33,891
influential power within lots of

3026
02:34:43,220 --> 02:34:38,700
countries lots of dictates world events

3027
02:34:45,140 --> 02:34:43,230
pretty much they don't say that other

3028
02:34:47,810 --> 02:34:45,150
people do they say they like to

3029
02:34:48,861 --> 02:34:47,820
influence world affairs which is I

3030
02:34:51,831 --> 02:34:48,871
suppose you might say it's the same

3031
02:34:53,961 --> 02:34:51,841
thing isn't it yeah anyway so they were

3032
02:34:56,001 --> 02:34:53,971
the founders of the Bilderbergers and

3033
02:34:57,921 --> 02:34:56,011
they have this history which takes them

3034
02:35:02,930 --> 02:34:57,931
all the way back as far as I can see

3035
02:35:05,661 --> 02:35:02,940
into the line of Jesus via magneri

3036
02:35:08,480 --> 02:35:05,671
Magdalene and her daughter cause

3037
02:35:14,211 --> 02:35:08,490
remember when Mary Magdalene escaped

3038
02:35:17,841 --> 02:35:14,221
from Judea she had a young girl with her

3039
02:35:20,211 --> 02:35:17,851
who was known as Sarah and Sarah just

3040
02:35:24,651 --> 02:35:20,221
means princess so she had a princess

3041
02:35:28,220 --> 02:35:24,661
with her and they were often portrayed

3042
02:35:31,551 --> 02:35:28,230
as the black Sarah especially was known

3043
02:35:33,081 --> 02:35:31,561
as the black princess and Mary Magdalene

3044
02:35:34,430 --> 02:35:33,091
as well if you look into the South of

3045
02:35:36,980 --> 02:35:34,440
France they have all these black

3046
02:35:39,441 --> 02:35:36,990
Madonna's which is not only the Black

3047
02:35:44,060 --> 02:35:39,451
Madonna of Mary the Virgin but also the

3048
02:35:45,801 --> 02:35:44,070
black Mary Magdalene and again people

3049
02:35:48,381 --> 02:35:45,811
jump on this and say oh then you know

3050
02:35:51,261 --> 02:35:48,391
they these were black people has nothing

3051
02:35:54,100 --> 02:35:51,271
to do with that that the blackness just

3052
02:35:59,031 --> 02:35:54,110
means they were Egyptian because in

3053
02:36:01,180 --> 02:35:59,041
Egyptian cam the word Cam means black

3054
02:36:05,390 --> 02:36:01,190
but it also means it was one of the

3055
02:36:10,421 --> 02:36:05,400
traditional names for Egypt yeah a few

3056
02:36:14,211 --> 02:36:10,431
school all of that Kemet Kemet kam is is

3057
02:36:16,011 --> 02:36:14,221
co-opted yes right um and so if you

3058
02:36:18,651 --> 02:36:16,021
wanted because of course all of this was

3059
02:36:21,951 --> 02:36:18,661
heretical if you wanted to indicate that

3060
02:36:25,430 --> 02:36:21,961
Sarah and Mary were Egyptian princess is

3061
02:36:27,321 --> 02:36:25,440
not not specifically Judean but Egyptian

3062
02:36:29,781 --> 02:36:27,331
you just painted them black and then

3063
02:36:31,491 --> 02:36:29,791
everyone who was in the know would know

3064
02:36:32,781 --> 02:36:31,501
that you were talking about kam you were

3065
02:36:34,761 --> 02:36:32,791
talking about these people being

3066
02:36:38,121 --> 02:36:34,771
Egyptian now what would I do

3067
02:36:41,121 --> 02:36:38,131
well what do we do with those that are

3068
02:36:43,461 --> 02:36:41,131
are Jewish that are gonna listen to this

3069
02:36:46,850 --> 02:36:43,471
show later or maybe even listening now

3070
02:36:49,161 --> 02:36:46,860
and and are hearing about Akhenaten and

3071
02:36:53,361 --> 02:36:49,171
Nefertiti and and the Garden of Eden and

3072
02:36:55,751 --> 02:36:53,371
Adam and Eve and and that they would be

3073
02:36:59,781 --> 02:36:55,761
their direct descendants and bloodlines

3074
02:37:02,571 --> 02:36:59,791
how do how do we soften that blow I mean

3075
02:37:05,571 --> 02:37:02,581
the possibility of this because it's

3076
02:37:07,689 --> 02:37:05,581
certainly gonna upset people but it just

3077
02:37:10,719 --> 02:37:07,699
may be the way that it is

3078
02:37:12,519 --> 02:37:10,729
you know how yeah I mean it does I don't

3079
02:37:14,920 --> 02:37:12,529
know why it does because obviously I'm

3080
02:37:18,219 --> 02:37:14,930
not a part of this I'm not wrapped up in

3081
02:37:21,819 --> 02:37:18,229
this idea of Christianity or Judaism so

3082
02:37:24,789 --> 02:37:21,829
it doesn't affect me but I would say it

3083
02:37:26,679 --> 02:37:24,799
makes your history more interesting that

3084
02:37:29,229 --> 02:37:26,689
you have this enormous bloodline that

3085
02:37:32,559 --> 02:37:29,239
goes back through Egypt not not simply

3086
02:37:34,869 --> 02:37:32,569
just to the Hyksos but maybe way back

3087
02:37:39,459 --> 02:37:34,879
into Egypt before that so you have this

3088
02:37:42,010 --> 02:37:39,469
grand royal history that goes back into

3089
02:37:44,229 --> 02:37:42,020
the very beginnings of civilization with

3090
02:37:46,599 --> 02:37:44,239
you know King Mena's who was supposed to

3091
02:37:48,159 --> 02:37:46,609
be the first king of Egypt back in the

3092
02:37:50,050 --> 02:37:48,169
first dynasty that's right

3093
02:37:52,829 --> 02:37:50,060
I would have thought that would be more

3094
02:37:56,260 --> 02:37:52,839
interesting than just having a

3095
02:37:58,630 --> 02:37:56,270
peculiarly Israelite Jewish heritage

3096
02:38:02,139 --> 02:37:58,640
which goes back to we don't know quite

3097
02:38:04,029 --> 02:38:02,149
where right but you're right people

3098
02:38:06,279 --> 02:38:04,039
don't like it they do get very upset I

3099
02:38:12,279 --> 02:38:06,289
get lots of angry letters and emails

3100
02:38:14,469 --> 02:38:12,289
I'm forwarding all of them to you but

3101
02:38:16,809 --> 02:38:14,479
yeah you know and you're right because

3102
02:38:19,179 --> 02:38:16,819
when you go back to Menace or Narmer

3103
02:38:22,569 --> 02:38:19,189
however you want to define whoever that

3104
02:38:26,409 --> 02:38:22,579
first King was if they were the first

3105
02:38:28,659 --> 02:38:26,419
King that's all again it's it's it's the

3106
02:38:30,670 --> 02:38:28,669
historical record is difficult enough we

3107
02:38:32,170 --> 02:38:30,680
only have so much to go on but if that

3108
02:38:34,510 --> 02:38:32,180
is the case there is a starting point

3109
02:38:37,149 --> 02:38:34,520
there where if we look at the other

3110
02:38:39,279 --> 02:38:37,159
versions of the story everything is in

3111
02:38:42,189 --> 02:38:39,289
question there isn't anything definitive

3112
02:38:43,840 --> 02:38:42,199
right and so okaylet makes your life

3113
02:38:49,899 --> 02:38:43,850
more interesting I'm gonna try that

3114
02:38:54,039 --> 02:38:49,909
reply and also we have current you know

3115
02:38:57,010 --> 02:38:54,049
the evidence from Akhenaten that he was

3116
02:38:58,929 --> 02:38:57,020
trying to portray himself in the image

3117
02:39:01,689 --> 02:38:58,939
of the gods that's why we have Arkin

3118
02:39:04,179 --> 02:39:01,699
hearten with his you know almond shaped

3119
02:39:09,039 --> 02:39:04,189
eyes in his strange triangular head in

3120
02:39:11,679 --> 02:39:09,049
his strange he al come female body yep

3121
02:39:14,889 --> 02:39:11,689
he was trying to portray himself in in

3122
02:39:18,399 --> 02:39:14,899
the image of the gods and so we have a

3123
02:39:19,869 --> 02:39:18,409
direct link back here to early history

3124
02:39:21,610 --> 02:39:19,879
of the gods where the gods were

3125
02:39:23,770 --> 02:39:21,620
considered to be

3126
02:39:26,560 --> 02:39:23,780
you know we were made in the image of

3127
02:39:29,110 --> 02:39:26,570
God so we look like the gods and this is

3128
02:39:34,600 --> 02:39:29,120
the same image as they are portraying

3129
02:39:37,740 --> 02:39:34,610
now within Hollywood films for the alien

3130
02:39:40,600 --> 02:39:37,750
greys so this this tradition that was

3131
02:39:44,560 --> 02:39:40,610
brought out into the open by Akhenaten

3132
02:39:46,720 --> 02:39:44,570
is still being played on within modern

3133
02:39:51,250 --> 02:39:46,730
television in cinema whether you know

3134
02:39:54,490 --> 02:39:51,260
the modern alien God from above looks

3135
02:39:56,110 --> 02:39:54,500
exactly the same as Akhenaten so this is

3136
02:39:59,440 --> 02:39:56,120
a long history that is still being

3137
02:40:03,690 --> 02:39:59,450
played out within modern society well

3138
02:40:07,360 --> 02:40:03,700
let me ask you about that the the

3139
02:40:09,610 --> 02:40:07,370
architecture the artistry the the

3140
02:40:13,480 --> 02:40:09,620
carvings the sculpture the the paint

3141
02:40:16,030 --> 02:40:13,490
everything that is is all over those

3142
02:40:21,790 --> 02:40:16,040
temples in Egypt was done with intent

3143
02:40:25,360 --> 02:40:21,800
beautiful and and he looked completely

3144
02:40:28,540 --> 02:40:25,370
out of whack and in fact he was the only

3145
02:40:30,970 --> 02:40:28,550
one that that was like look at Nefertiti

3146
02:40:38,320 --> 02:40:30,980
beautiful right and then you have

3147
02:40:41,920 --> 02:40:38,330
Akhenaten that was different now was it

3148
02:40:44,591 --> 02:40:41,930
a mistake was it artistic license or was

3149
02:40:48,700 --> 02:40:44,601
dude in et you know is there that

3150
02:40:50,980 --> 02:40:48,710
possibility well we know it wasn't as

3151
02:40:53,051 --> 02:40:50,990
disease of course you know traditional

3152
02:40:54,700 --> 02:40:53,061
Egyptology tries to say oh it was a

3153
02:40:57,570 --> 02:40:54,710
disease that's why he looked like this

3154
02:41:01,900 --> 02:40:57,580
they say Crohn's disease or whatever

3155
02:41:03,640 --> 02:41:01,910
strangely enough Prince Bernhard had

3156
02:41:08,051 --> 02:41:03,650
Crohn's disease as well so they go

3157
02:41:09,880 --> 02:41:08,061
there's another you know but anyway they

3158
02:41:11,261 --> 02:41:09,890
say it was you know supposed to be a

3159
02:41:13,720 --> 02:41:11,271
disease but of course we know it wasn't

3160
02:41:15,551 --> 02:41:13,730
a disease because as you say we have the

3161
02:41:18,400 --> 02:41:15,561
bust of Nefertiti who is very beautiful

3162
02:41:22,120 --> 02:41:18,410
we have even the bust of Akhenaten which

3163
02:41:23,890 --> 02:41:22,130
is perfectly normal and then of course

3164
02:41:27,370 --> 02:41:23,900
we have the distended features of

3165
02:41:29,470 --> 02:41:27,380
Akhenaten and the distended features of

3166
02:41:32,110 --> 02:41:29,480
Nefertiti so they drew Nefertiti in the

3167
02:41:33,730 --> 02:41:32,120
same distorted fashion as well so we

3168
02:41:36,100 --> 02:41:33,740
know this wasn't a disease this was a

3169
02:41:40,120 --> 02:41:36,110
sort of artistic fashion

3170
02:41:43,690 --> 02:41:40,130
why did they do it well I think they did

3171
02:41:45,670 --> 02:41:43,700
it because this was the image of God he

3172
02:41:47,920 --> 02:41:45,680
wanted to portray himself in the image

3173
02:41:49,660 --> 02:41:47,930
of the God I mean as a pharaoh you were

3174
02:41:52,000 --> 02:41:49,670
supposed to be the son of God all of the

3175
02:41:53,860 --> 02:41:52,010
Egyptian pharaohs were son of God that's

3176
02:41:55,810 --> 02:41:53,870
why Jesus was called a son of God as

3177
02:41:58,600 --> 02:41:55,820
well because he was following the same

3178
02:42:02,920 --> 02:41:58,610
tradition so Akhenaten would have been

3179
02:42:05,110 --> 02:42:02,930
the son of the artim effectively and so

3180
02:42:07,630 --> 02:42:05,120
he was trying to portray himself in the

3181
02:42:11,320 --> 02:42:07,640
form that he understood the gods looked

3182
02:42:13,960 --> 02:42:11,330
like so this was the form that he

3183
02:42:18,150 --> 02:42:13,970
understood the gods looked like this and

3184
02:42:19,590 --> 02:42:18,160
he was portraying them as a humanoid

3185
02:42:23,469 --> 02:42:19,600
[Music]

3186
02:42:26,740 --> 02:42:23,479
humanoid type being sick sexless sort of

3187
02:42:29,710 --> 02:42:26,750
humanoid being with these big eyes and

3188
02:42:31,270 --> 02:42:29,720
triangular head sort of thing which is

3189
02:42:35,860 --> 02:42:31,280
pretty much what they're trying to do in

3190
02:42:38,080 --> 02:42:35,870
in modern television which is all very

3191
02:42:39,640 --> 02:42:38,090
interesting and I don't know where he

3192
02:42:43,150 --> 02:42:39,650
got his information from I don't know

3193
02:42:44,740 --> 02:42:43,160
why he thought that you know this is how

3194
02:42:46,510 --> 02:42:44,750
the gods looked like but I mean this is

3195
02:42:49,360 --> 02:42:46,520
what the Tanakh says as well you know in

3196
02:42:51,940 --> 02:42:49,370
Genesis it says that man was made in the

3197
02:42:54,040 --> 02:42:51,950
image of gods and so if you take that

3198
02:42:55,929 --> 02:42:54,050
literally then then the gods must look

3199
02:42:57,880 --> 02:42:55,939
vaguely humanoid or something of that

3200
02:43:03,730 --> 02:42:57,890
nature so we're talking about a humanoid

3201
02:43:06,400 --> 02:43:03,740
being the religion of Jesus and James

3202
02:43:09,520 --> 02:43:06,410
did the same they were they were

3203
02:43:12,850 --> 02:43:09,530
following the primeval atom within the

3204
02:43:16,230 --> 02:43:12,860
Gnosticism and the primeval atom was

3205
02:43:19,660 --> 02:43:16,240
again was a humanoid being who was the

3206
02:43:21,790 --> 02:43:19,670
primeval God who was the first man they

3207
02:43:24,760 --> 02:43:21,800
called him the first Adam which is why

3208
02:43:28,810 --> 02:43:24,770
again we have this name Adam in Genesis

3209
02:43:35,230 --> 02:43:28,820
because within Gnosticism the the first

3210
02:43:37,960 --> 02:43:35,240
man he was more God than man and his

3211
02:43:43,270 --> 02:43:37,970
name was Adam the primeval atom and he

3212
02:43:45,730 --> 02:43:43,280
was the proto anthropos the first man so

3213
02:43:48,780 --> 02:43:45,740
ya long tradition and it's still being

3214
02:43:51,180 --> 02:43:48,790
kept alive today by the sounds of it

3215
02:43:53,430 --> 02:43:51,190
some some people do you think they'll

3216
02:43:56,011 --> 02:43:53,440
ever find Hollywood yeah do you think

3217
02:43:59,250 --> 02:43:56,021
they'll ever find Akhenaten or Nefertiti

3218
02:44:02,160 --> 02:43:59,260
their mummies some remains it would be

3219
02:44:03,810 --> 02:44:02,170
nice to get some some type of DNA you

3220
02:44:06,330 --> 02:44:03,820
know analysis done so we could figure

3221
02:44:08,130 --> 02:44:06,340
out a few things but do you think

3222
02:44:10,110 --> 02:44:08,140
they'll ever do that or did they just

3223
02:44:14,840 --> 02:44:10,120
get on their spaceship and go back to

3224
02:44:17,310 --> 02:44:14,850
Nibiru at least possible

3225
02:44:19,500 --> 02:44:17,320
it's just unfortunate we don't know

3226
02:44:21,600 --> 02:44:19,510
where they went to I mean they certainly

3227
02:44:25,080 --> 02:44:21,610
went on an exodus they were pushed out

3228
02:44:29,100 --> 02:44:25,090
of middle Egypt out of akut a ton as

3229
02:44:31,560 --> 02:44:29,110
they call it where did they go to did

3230
02:44:34,350 --> 02:44:31,570
they go to they had very very close

3231
02:44:36,690 --> 02:44:34,360
connections with Crete with the Minoan

3232
02:44:38,580 --> 02:44:36,700
Empire right we know this because their

3233
02:44:41,610 --> 02:44:38,590
artistry is exactly the same they said

3234
02:44:43,710 --> 02:44:41,620
everyone says that Akhenaten was doing

3235
02:44:46,740 --> 02:44:43,720
you know wonderful things with new art

3236
02:44:50,070 --> 02:44:46,750
history but that came strauder straight

3237
02:44:51,511 --> 02:44:50,080
out of the Minoan Empire so we know they

3238
02:44:55,380 --> 02:44:51,521
had great links there they could have

3239
02:44:57,630 --> 02:44:55,390
gone to to Greece as well they could

3240
02:45:01,050 --> 02:44:57,640
have gone to the Levant I think there

3241
02:45:04,350 --> 02:45:01,060
will be found eventually perhaps some

3242
02:45:07,380 --> 02:45:04,360
remains of Akhenaten he would have

3243
02:45:09,360 --> 02:45:07,390
wanted to be buried in some style if he

3244
02:45:13,230 --> 02:45:09,370
could possibly manage it the only

3245
02:45:15,950 --> 02:45:13,240
problem is if he go up into Greece and

3246
02:45:19,350 --> 02:45:15,960
so on the weather is not so conducive to

3247
02:45:21,690 --> 02:45:19,360
to keeping mummies so but you might find

3248
02:45:23,400 --> 02:45:21,700
some a burial and some artifacts that

3249
02:45:26,070 --> 02:45:23,410
indicates that this was the burial of

3250
02:45:28,830 --> 02:45:26,080
Akhenaten or Nefertiti I think they

3251
02:45:31,320 --> 02:45:28,840
would have wanted to preserve their

3252
02:45:34,290 --> 02:45:31,330
mortal remains as every Pharaoh did

3253
02:45:38,400 --> 02:45:34,300
that's right the the people who went

3254
02:45:39,990 --> 02:45:38,410
over to Spain and on to Ireland had an

3255
02:45:42,120 --> 02:45:40,000
even bigger problem because they were

3256
02:45:45,240 --> 02:45:42,130
then you know vaguely poverty-stricken

3257
02:45:48,810 --> 02:45:45,250
the weather is not so the climate is not

3258
02:45:50,910 --> 02:45:48,820
so good for our preserving burials so I

3259
02:45:53,730 --> 02:45:50,920
don't think we'll find much of Pharaoh I

3260
02:45:56,070 --> 02:45:53,740
and and kisana moon because they went

3261
02:45:57,990 --> 02:45:56,080
over to Spain and Ireland but it's

3262
02:45:59,400 --> 02:45:58,000
possible that we might find something of

3263
02:46:00,361 --> 02:45:59,410
a can happen but we're not going to find

3264
02:46:02,881 --> 02:46:00,371
it

3265
02:46:04,411 --> 02:46:02,891
down in Upper Egypt down in the Valley

3266
02:46:05,791 --> 02:46:04,421
of the Kings we're not going to find it

3267
02:46:07,621 --> 02:46:05,801
in middle Egypt because they were pushed

3268
02:46:10,561 --> 02:46:07,631
out of there that's right if they're in

3269
02:46:15,301 --> 02:46:10,571
Egypt at all we might find something in

3270
02:46:19,171 --> 02:46:15,311
the Nile Delta possibly I'm thinking I'm

3271
02:46:21,961 --> 02:46:19,181
thinking Syria Turkey yeah it's possible

3272
02:46:24,930 --> 02:46:21,971
maybe Armenia maybe they went that far

3273
02:46:27,301 --> 02:46:24,940
up in a way but you know at that time

3274
02:46:28,981 --> 02:46:27,311
Turkey wasn't even there you know so

3275
02:46:32,341 --> 02:46:28,991
that was all the Armenian highlands

3276
02:46:35,581 --> 02:46:32,351
anyway but that that possibility is

3277
02:46:37,680 --> 02:46:35,591
there I don't know well we know that

3278
02:46:39,981 --> 02:46:37,690
there is a possibility they went up in

3279
02:46:42,390 --> 02:46:39,991
that direction a because we have the

3280
02:46:45,211 --> 02:46:42,400
history that that some of these people

3281
02:46:49,350 --> 02:46:45,221
went to Argos they call it into Greece

3282
02:46:51,781 --> 02:46:49,360
but also we have the the boat that they

3283
02:46:53,731 --> 02:46:51,791
found just off the coast of Bodrum I

3284
02:46:58,921 --> 02:46:53,741
don't know if you knew this thing it's

3285
02:47:00,600 --> 02:46:58,931
called the aloo beroun wreck and they

3286
02:47:02,281 --> 02:47:00,610
found this ship anyway it was just off

3287
02:47:06,271 --> 02:47:02,291
the coast of Bodrum near Turkey as you

3288
02:47:08,881 --> 02:47:06,281
were saying and it had everything that

3289
02:47:10,831 --> 02:47:08,891
you would want on an exile so if you

3290
02:47:13,801 --> 02:47:10,841
imagine anything that you would actually

3291
02:47:16,321 --> 02:47:13,811
want to maintain a new civilization in a

3292
02:47:18,841 --> 02:47:16,331
new country this boat had it and it had

3293
02:47:21,061 --> 02:47:18,851
all the raw materials as well it had you

3294
02:47:23,341 --> 02:47:21,071
know raw copper um wrought in it had raw

3295
02:47:26,581 --> 02:47:23,351
glass everything you would need to

3296
02:47:30,111 --> 02:47:26,591
actually establish a new society in a

3297
02:47:34,261 --> 02:47:30,121
new land and the one thing that dates

3298
02:47:36,871 --> 02:47:34,271
this particular wreck is a ring of

3299
02:47:39,600 --> 02:47:36,881
Nefertiti Wow

3300
02:47:41,341 --> 02:47:39,610
and that was that was that boat was

3301
02:47:43,140 --> 02:47:41,351
discovered about 40 years ago it's in

3302
02:47:46,561 --> 02:47:43,150
Bodrum if anyone's going to Bodrum at

3303
02:47:49,711 --> 02:47:46,571
any time which is a tourist resort in in

3304
02:47:51,390 --> 02:47:49,721
modern Turkey they've got all the

3305
02:47:55,231 --> 02:47:51,400
remains from this boat it's one of the

3306
02:47:58,381 --> 02:47:55,241
most fantastic finds ever in marine

3307
02:48:02,331 --> 02:47:58,391
archaeology and so we know this boat was

3308
02:48:05,640 --> 02:48:02,341
very very soon after the era of

3309
02:48:07,411 --> 02:48:05,650
Nefertiti and it was going by the looks

3310
02:48:08,881 --> 02:48:07,421
of it on an exodus because it had

3311
02:48:11,551 --> 02:48:08,891
everything you would need to maintain a

3312
02:48:13,360 --> 02:48:11,561
new civilization so yeah it's possible

3313
02:48:15,940 --> 02:48:13,370
that they were heading off

3314
02:48:18,460 --> 02:48:15,950
towards the southern sort of coastline

3315
02:48:22,270 --> 02:48:18,470
of Anatolia or orange

3316
02:48:24,190 --> 02:48:22,280
they went to Orange so yeah Ralph what's

3317
02:48:26,530 --> 02:48:24,200
your next book what are you doing now

3318
02:48:30,250 --> 02:48:26,540
you're gonna change the world once again

3319
02:48:32,710 --> 02:48:30,260
what are you working on um I'm not

3320
02:48:34,511 --> 02:48:32,720
actually working on anything at present

3321
02:48:38,140 --> 02:48:34,521
I'm sort of consolidating I've been

3322
02:48:42,011 --> 02:48:38,150
doing a lot of advertising I've got all

3323
02:48:44,890 --> 02:48:42,021
of these books into the UK mainstream

3324
02:48:47,230 --> 02:48:44,900
press which was good and we're doing the

3325
02:48:49,930 --> 02:48:47,240
Arthur book next month that will go into

3326
02:48:51,490 --> 02:48:49,940
the mainstream press in Britain nuts had

3327
02:48:53,560 --> 02:48:51,500
so much success getting it into the

3328
02:48:56,261 --> 02:48:53,570
mainstream press in America yet because

3329
02:48:58,720 --> 02:48:56,271
that's the big market of course but

3330
02:49:01,301 --> 02:48:58,730
doing a lot of promotion and thinking

3331
02:49:05,801 --> 02:49:01,311
about the next book there are lots of

3332
02:49:07,511 --> 02:49:05,811
avenues that still haven't been fully

3333
02:49:09,070 --> 02:49:07,521
thought through I mean even this this

3334
02:49:10,480 --> 02:49:09,080
Bilderberger business that we were

3335
02:49:13,660 --> 02:49:10,490
talking about here I don't write about

3336
02:49:16,600 --> 02:49:13,670
that way all of those things all of

3337
02:49:18,610 --> 02:49:16,610
these avenues could be looked at if I

3338
02:49:20,770 --> 02:49:18,620
had the time later on so there are lots

3339
02:49:22,990 --> 02:49:20,780
of places we could go to lots of places

3340
02:49:24,820 --> 02:49:23,000
thank you so much Ralph for all that you

3341
02:49:27,040 --> 02:49:24,830
do and I just can't wait to get you back

3342
02:49:29,230 --> 02:49:27,050
on the show again we waited way too long

3343
02:49:32,020 --> 02:49:29,240
I just enjoy the conversation so much

3344
02:49:35,620 --> 02:49:32,030
thank you and there you go thank you so

3345
02:49:40,180 --> 02:49:35,630
much and again Ralph's links which is

3346
02:49:43,930 --> 02:49:40,190
Edie Phu - what is it again edu I always

3347
02:49:45,820 --> 02:49:43,940
forget - books : yeah Edie Phu at -

3348
02:49:48,880 --> 02:49:45,830
ebooks.com the links were over Jimmy

3349
02:49:50,620 --> 02:49:48,890
Torrio calm please click and go get all

3350
02:49:52,240 --> 02:49:50,630
of the books and I got to tell you Adam

3351
02:49:54,730 --> 02:49:52,250
and Eve were Pharaoh Akhenaten and

3352
02:49:56,200 --> 02:49:54,740
Nefertiti there is the book Eden in

3353
02:49:58,660 --> 02:49:56,210
Egypt check it out

3354
02:50:00,250 --> 02:49:58,670
Ralph thank you so much my friend thanks

3355
02:50:03,520 --> 02:50:00,260
Jimmy all the best

3356
02:50:06,160 --> 02:50:03,530
Ralph Ellis again ed foo books

3357
02:50:08,320 --> 02:50:06,170
ed foo - ebooks.com right there Jimmy

3358
02:50:10,780 --> 02:50:08,330
Church radio.com the links are right

3359
02:50:13,270 --> 02:50:10,790
there I do want to do a little a public

3360
02:50:18,930 --> 02:50:13,280
service announcement I put it up in

3361
02:50:20,830 --> 02:50:18,940
Twitter modern masters and there

3362
02:50:22,210 --> 02:50:20,840
podcast series that they're putting

3363
02:50:26,080 --> 02:50:22,220
together the first one that they are

3364
02:50:28,900 --> 02:50:26,090
working on is on portals so if you can

3365
02:50:30,910 --> 02:50:28,910
contribute please reach out to modern

3366
02:50:32,590 --> 02:50:30,920
masters all of the links are up in

3367
02:50:35,980 --> 02:50:32,600
Twitter right now you can also go to to

3368
02:50:38,560 --> 02:50:35,990
me Church radio.com hit up Rita either

3369
02:50:43,060 --> 02:50:38,570
in Twitter or via email or modern

3370
02:50:45,850 --> 02:50:43,070
masters and contribute and be part of

3371
02:50:48,520 --> 02:50:45,860
the community for the first podcast that

3372
02:50:50,500 --> 02:50:48,530
will be coming out on portals ok I have

3373
02:50:54,580 --> 02:50:50,510
retweeted it a couple of times tonight

3374
02:50:57,520 --> 02:50:54,590
but it is very important with that this

3375
02:50:58,990 --> 02:50:57,530
weekend I will be over at coast-to-coast

3376
02:51:01,960 --> 02:50:59,000
tomorrow night

3377
02:51:04,210 --> 02:51:01,970
my guest is Richard Dolan so that will

3378
02:51:06,220 --> 02:51:04,220
be tomorrow night followed by open lines

3379
02:51:09,040 --> 02:51:06,230
and tomorrow night Richard and I are

3380
02:51:11,590 --> 02:51:09,050
gonna spend the show talking about false

3381
02:51:16,390 --> 02:51:11,600
flags so that's tomorrow night and then

3382
02:51:18,310 --> 02:51:16,400
Saturday night my guests are Jay Widener

3383
02:51:20,710 --> 02:51:18,320
and we're gonna have a nazca mummy

3384
02:51:25,500 --> 02:51:20,720
update so get ready for that that'll be

3385
02:51:29,830 --> 02:51:25,510
Saturday night and then Mel fàbregas of

3386
02:51:31,600 --> 02:51:29,840
Veritas radio and he will spend the rest

3387
02:51:34,210 --> 02:51:31,610
of the show with me on Saturday night

3388
02:51:36,910 --> 02:51:34,220
over I coast and it's it's it's such a

3389
02:51:38,440 --> 02:51:36,920
cool weekend for us over at coast yes we

3390
02:51:40,030 --> 02:51:38,450
are extending fade to black and we're

3391
02:51:43,301 --> 02:51:40,040
just going over the coast and doing this

3392
02:51:45,700 --> 02:51:43,311
but when I spoke to Mel this this week

3393
02:51:47,470 --> 02:51:45,710
and I found out that he had never done

3394
02:51:50,320 --> 02:51:47,480
coast it just didn't make sense to me

3395
02:51:52,780 --> 02:51:50,330
the the presentation that we did this

3396
02:51:55,660 --> 02:51:52,790
week was so fun and so cool that's

3397
02:51:57,670 --> 02:51:55,670
exactly what our community needs to hear

3398
02:52:00,400 --> 02:51:57,680
so we're gonna spread that word wider

3399
02:52:02,020 --> 02:52:00,410
and further on Saturday night with Mel

3400
02:52:05,410 --> 02:52:02,030
fàbregas so you don't want to miss that

3401
02:52:08,560 --> 02:52:05,420
and again very important the nazca mummy

3402
02:52:12,820 --> 02:52:08,570
updates that are happening with Gaia and

3403
02:52:16,090 --> 02:52:12,830
J Widener we will be doing on Saturday

3404
02:52:19,750 --> 02:52:16,100
night next week we have J Widener back

3405
02:52:22,030 --> 02:52:19,760
here with J Dyer that'll be on Monday

3406
02:52:24,220 --> 02:52:22,040
here on fade to black and we have an

3407
02:52:27,940 --> 02:52:24,230
amazing week Justin does shamp is gonna

3408
02:52:31,120 --> 02:52:27,950
be here with this next week and Ray

3409
02:52:31,830 --> 02:52:31,130
Davies is going to be here on Wednesday

3410
02:52:34,770 --> 02:52:31,840
night

3411
02:52:37,290 --> 02:52:34,780
there you go no rest for the wicked

3412
02:52:40,890 --> 02:52:37,300
and the good news is before I depart I

3413
02:52:43,680 --> 02:52:40,900
wanted to give everybody an update yes

3414
02:52:47,520 --> 02:52:43,690
our kitchen has been demolished over at

3415
02:52:49,740 --> 02:52:47,530
the house finally tomorrow all of the

3416
02:52:52,350 --> 02:52:49,750
construction will be finished and we

3417
02:52:54,591 --> 02:52:52,360
will have our new water heater installed

3418
02:52:58,230 --> 02:52:54,601
can you imagine we've now gone two weeks

3419
02:53:03,330 --> 02:52:58,240
with taking showers down the street at a

3420
02:53:06,301 --> 02:53:03,340
hotel so there's no joke right so we're

3421
02:53:08,910 --> 02:53:06,311
doing that all weekend construction over

3422
02:53:10,051 --> 02:53:08,920
at the house and we are working and we

3423
02:53:12,511 --> 02:53:10,061
are doing fade to black

3424
02:53:14,400 --> 02:53:12,521
all of that why because we love our

3425
02:53:16,890 --> 02:53:14,410
audience and we love the fade or not so

3426
02:53:18,990 --> 02:53:16,900
I want to thank Ralph Ellis again for

3427
02:53:21,690 --> 02:53:19,000
doing just one of the most amazing

3428
02:53:23,761 --> 02:53:21,700
conversations ever he run fade to black

3429
02:53:26,270 --> 02:53:23,771
I'm your host Jimmy Church fade to black

3430
02:53:28,591 --> 02:53:26,280
executive producer is Rita Kumari on

3431
02:53:31,020 --> 02:53:28,601
shows produced by Hill Jay Paul mark

3432
02:53:33,360 --> 02:53:31,030
Tico very old j-3 Renee Jonas Thank You

3433
02:53:35,610 --> 02:53:33,370
Dennis thank you Bob announces our Steve

3434
02:53:38,910 --> 02:53:35,620
Harter gene Vito will Marty colbaugh

3435
02:53:42,301 --> 02:53:38,920
Beatty by del webmaster is Drew the geek

3436
02:53:45,030 --> 02:53:42,311
intro space boys space boy music calm

3437
02:53:49,591 --> 02:53:45,040
music doug aldrich fade to black is

3438
02:53:52,650 --> 02:53:49,601
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3439
02:53:54,780 --> 02:53:52,660
the planet thank you to Jon Rappoport

3440
02:53:57,030 --> 02:53:54,790
tonight for coming in with us no more

3441
02:53:58,110 --> 02:53:57,040
fake newsroom and of course the one and

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only Ralph

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Ellis this broadcast is on the copyright

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of 2017 by fade to black in the game

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changer Network

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it cannot be rebroadcast downloaded

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copied or used anywhere in the known

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universe without written permission from

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fade to black or the game changing

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network I'm your host Jimmy Church

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follow me on twitter @jj church radio

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that simple I'll see everybody tomorrow

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night over at coast until then be safe

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go back late Appy